[comp.protocols.appletalk] Anyone have any experience with K-Ashare/K-Spool?

fausett@ra.radc.af.mil (Mark L. Fausett) (01/26/91)

I see that people have had nothing good to say about IPT's product.
Any experience with Mt Xinu's K-Share/K-Spool?

Mark Fausett
fausett@aivax.radc.af.mil

tilley@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Richard Tilley) (01/29/91)

In <fausett.664843072@ra> fausett@ra.radc.af.mil (Mark L. Fausett) writes:

>I see that people have had nothing good to say about IPT's product.
>Any experience with Mt Xinu's K-Share/K-Spool?

>Mark Fausett
>fausett@aivax.radc.af.mil

They are cheap enough that we got them to try out on one of our 2 Sun4's.
I wasted a week discovering known problems - they don't come with a list of such.
Nor do they have an FTP archive. They do answer their mail but not that helpfully.
One of our Suns has an extra ethernet card. The other an X25 card.
Both contraindicated. I tried them on a dataless SparcStation (all that was left).
They did not work reliably there but at least the machine would boot.
I suspect trouble with Sun's buggy lock daemon over NFS.
Amazing how fast 8 messages per second to a log file can fill up a file system.
 
They may be working on a Phase II product.
Anyone have any information on this?

We are getting desperate for a reliable unix Phase II server.
We are currently using aufs. It requires mac users to log on to unix to get started!
Has anyone tried EtherShare?
Does Alisa have a Sun product?
Does anyone have anything good to say?
All info welcome.

tom@cs.mu.oz.au (Tom Evans) (01/29/91)

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In article <1991Jan28.232807.2810@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, tilley@ccu.umanitoba.ca
(Richard Tilley) writes:
> 
> We are getting desperate for a reliable unix Phase II server.
> We are currently using aufs. It requires mac users to log on to unix to 
> get started!

Huh? It has exactly the same Mac user interface as Apple's AppleShare has.
You have to "log on" to the server (with name and password) for both
of them. You can be a "guest" on both. On both you can have the Mac commit
the crime of "remembering" the name and password (and default mounted
volumes) so they come up automatically when you (or anyone else who wants
to play with your files :-) switches on your Mac.

If you mean that the Mac user has to be given an account/password on the
Unix system, then AppleShare requires the same procedure on its server.
If you don't want this, then a "group" account can always be created that
everyone logs in to, with the usual tradeoffs between an easy life and
a secure life...

It is also a perfectly good, totally PHASE 2 compatible server.

Tom Evans, tom@wcc.oz.au
Webster Computer Corporation, Australia.

claytor@tandem.physics.upenn.edu (Nelson Claytor) (01/29/91)

In article <3135@murtoa.cs.mu.oz.au> tom@cs.mu.oz.au (Tom Evans) writes:
> Huh? It has exactly the same Mac user interface as Apple's AppleShare 
has.
> You have to "log on" to the server (with name and password) for both
> of them. You can be a "guest" on both. On both you can have the Mac 
commit
> the crime of "remembering" the name and password (and default mounted
> volumes) so they come up automatically when you (or anyone else who wants
> to play with your files :-) switches on your Mac.

Well, yes, but someone at least has to create the .resource and 
.finderinfo directories, and has to create the .afpvols file specifying 
what to mount.

> It is also a perfectly good, totally PHASE 2 compatible server.

I don't think so, at least not the last version I picked up at 
rutgers.edu. The last I heard, Phase II support was coming real soon now 
(which should not be interpreted as a flame on the people who freely give 
us their work!). If you have a copy which supports phase II, let me know 
about it.

Nelson

Nelson Claytor
claytor@tandem.physics.upenn.edu