Chris_McNeil@MACSMTP.CSD.UNB.CA (Chris McNeil) (03/27/91)
What are some mail systems availiable for PC's and compatables. I look after
our Mac network usually but have been given the task of getting mail working
for IBM PC users also.
What we have: a few hundred PC Net users (who use CUTCP)
: probably many Novell networks in the future
What we Need: Mail between users
: Mail (SMTP) to the outside world
Any suggestions ? Also is POP a good way to go ? and does PCIP from Stanford
support packet drivers ( I want to use it with PCNET )
Sorry for the PC questions, I tried signing up to the CW-EMAIL list but nothing
happend.(must not like Mac users)
Chris McNeil
University of New Brunswick
cjm@unb.cawnn@ornl.gov (04/02/91)
In article <Added.gbw9qqO00UkTQ7iE8Z@andrew.cmu.edu> Chris_McNeil@MACSMTP.CSD.UNB.CA (Chris McNeil) writes: >What are some mail systems availiable for PC's and compatables. I look after >our Mac network usually but have been given the task of getting mail working >for IBM PC users also. >What we have: a few hundred PC Net users (who use CUTCP) > : probably many Novell networks in the future > QuickMail still is the most flexible and powerful mail system on the Mac. There is a PC implementation, called PC QuickMail, but it doesn't work as smoothly as the Mac version. However, a new release is supposed to come out soon. If you have hundreds of PCs, you probably want to look into Banyan Vines rather than Novell, since Vines is much more scalable, user-friendly, and administrable in large multi-server networks. Vines has a very good built-in mail system. Banyan also has a Vines mail to QuickMail bridge. They are about to introduce a Mac Vines package. Wolfgang N. Naegeli University of Tennessee & Oak Ridge National Laboratory Internet: wnn@ornl.gov Bitnet: wnn@ornlstc Phone: 615-574-6143 Fax: 615-574-6141 (MacFax) QuickMail (QM-QM): Wolfgang Naegeli @ 615-574-4510
brianb@kinetics.com (Brian Bulkowski) (04/03/91)
Beg to differ, but IMHO Novell is extremely scaleable and friendly. Netware 286 is a bit of a pain to set up, but 386 is a breeze. The new 2.2 is supposed to be better, but I haven't seen it yet. Also, we have the first reasonable huge scale AFP server implimentation. The folks who brought you the fastpath have been working hard, and even though it's a first generation product it's something to be proud of. You can run it on one of those overexpensive system pros, the one that I saw with 21 gig of disk and 120 MB of RAM. Basically replace a mainframe. And scalebility - well, we have 300+ PC servers on our net, and run TCP/IP, AppleTalk, and IPX long haul between 5 geographically disperse sites. Remote development, it's called. We have guys I work with in Utah who bop down and work on code in my server. I call that friendly and scaleable. But I'm a techie, what do I know :-)? But this isn't the place to discuss PC networking, eh? A friend of mine did a cross cultural comparsion of mail packages, and was unimpressed with QuickMail's ability to fit in with SMTP, and with it's 256 *256 messages maximum storage capacity. He was more impressed with a package called Eudora, which is from one of those prolific universities like CMU or Michigan or something like that. It works directly on TCP/IP. It won't make much sense unless the shop has a lot of TCP/IP in place. Does anyone out there know more about this package? My friend is quite a student of user interfaces, and I trust him to be quite picky about details (tho quite a TCP bigot :-). Ciao, dudes BrianB brianb@wc.novell.com In article <1991Apr2.152611.26499@cs.utk.edu> wnn@ornl.gov writes: > >QuickMail still is the most flexible and powerful mail system on the Mac. >There is a PC implementation, called PC QuickMail, but it doesn't work as >smoothly as the Mac version. However, a new release is supposed to come out >soon. > >If you have hundreds of PCs, you probably want to look into Banyan Vines rather >than Novell, since Vines is much more scalable, user-friendly, and >administrable in large multi-server networks. Vines has a very good built-in >mail system. Banyan also has a Vines mail to QuickMail bridge. They are about >to introduce a Mac Vines package. > >Wolfgang N. Naegeli >University of Tennessee & Oak Ridge National Laboratory >Internet: wnn@ornl.gov Bitnet: wnn@ornlstc >Phone: 615-574-6143 Fax: 615-574-6141 (MacFax) >QuickMail (QM-QM): Wolfgang Naegeli @ 615-574-4510
Todd Strauch (04/09/91)
In article <1991Apr2.152611.26499@cs.utk.edu> wnn@ornl.gov writes: >If you have hundreds of PCs, you probably want to look into Banyan Vines rather >than Novell, since Vines is much more scalable, user-friendly, and >administrable in large multi-server networks. Vines has a very good built-in >mail system. Banyan also has a Vines mail to QuickMail bridge. They are about >to introduce a Mac Vines package. > The only problem with Banyan Vines' mail package is that it is not fully compliant with the SMTP standard. As a result, user's are limited in communicating outside the Banyan network.
frye@cerl.uiuc.edu (G. David Frye) (04/10/91)
In article <1991Apr2.192824.20583@novell.com> brianb@plasma.kinetics.com (Brian Bulkowski) writes: > >A friend of mine did a cross cultural comparsion of mail packages, >and was unimpressed with QuickMail's ability to fit in with SMTP, >and with it's 256 *256 messages maximum storage capacity. He was >more impressed with a package called Eudora, which is from one of >those prolific universities like CMU or Michigan or something like that. >It works directly on TCP/IP. It won't make much sense unless the shop >has a lot of TCP/IP in place. Does anyone out there know more about >this package? My friend is quite a student of user interfaces, >and I trust him to be quite picky about details (tho quite a TCP bigot :-). Eudora was written by Steven Dorner at the University of Illinois. It is a Macintosh-resident POP-3 client. You can get a copy via anonymous FTP from "uxc.cso.uiuc.edu", in the "mail" directory. G. David Frye, U of Ill ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- INTERNET: frye@cerl.uiuc.edu PLATO: frye / s / cerl PHONE: (217) 333-7439 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------