roy@alanine.phri.nyu.edu (Roy Smith) (04/25/91)
Over the past week or two, I've imposed on this group a couple of times to help me unravel the mysteries of why my new FastPath-4 didn't work right. My latest plea for help was answered by tom@wcc.oz.au (Tom Evans) who did a detailed analysis of the atalkatab file I posted, spotting several things which looked suspicious. Unfortunately, none of them were the problem. It's not really Tom's fault, though, since I didn't supply him with the data he really needed to find what was wrong, my FastPath Manager config file. To make a long story short, I was using 55.1 as my IPTalk network, but I had typed 14080 into the FPM configuration instead of 14081. I must have looked at that 100 times over the past few days and didn't spot it. It was discovered by Arnie at Shiva Tech Support, after I faxed him copies off all my config files, and an extract of an tcpdump trace showing the fastpath repeatedly arping for its own address (one arp request in response to every at-nbp packet sent to it). I'm not sure how I feel about Shiva at this point. The NY Times on occasion gives out apples and worms on their editorial page to people they feel deserve them. I'll do the same. A big ugly slimey worm to Shiva for shipping the FP-4 boxes with a version of FastPath Manager that not only just plain doesn't work, but is so obviously and grossly defective that it never should have left alpha test. Manager 5.1 is so buggy I don't know where to begin. You type stuff into fields and it forgets what you've typed. FastPaths loaded with it forget their names. FPM itself bombs (Application Unexpectedly Quit, except after a while it wasn't too unexpected any more). Shiva Tech Suport had me going around in circles trying every permutation of editing, saving, and re-opening the config file before they admitted to me they already knew how bad it was and had a new version they could give me. An apple to Shiva for making FPM 5.2.1 and K-STAR 8.1.1 available for anonymous ftp; at least I was able to get the new versions the same day. An apple to Shiva tech support for suggesting that I just print out all my config files and fax them to him; much easier than reading him all the info. A worm to tech support for taking 2 days to return my multiple calls after faxing him the stuff. A big apple to tech support for spotting what was wrong with the config file. A worm to tech support for giving me vague and nebulous answers to some of my questions. He wanted me to put 5 and 5 in for the Range Start and Range End parameters in the EtherTalk Phase 2 configuration box, but couldn't tell me what those numbers meant. All he would say is that you need them to make transition bridges work and that it doesn't matter what the numbers are, and I should just trust him and use 5 and 5. I even read to him in the manual where it says that they are network numbers and must be unique in the Internet, which I took to mean I should ask our local network czar to assign me some numbers to use instead of picking them out of thin air, but he kept insisting that I should just trust him and I have to use 5 and 5 to make it work. And, finally, a very large, bright red, shiny and delicious apple to everybody on the net who so patiently answered my many questions and helped me through this ordeal. -- Roy Smith, Public Health Research Institute 455 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016 roy@alanine.phri.nyu.edu -OR- {att,cmcl2,rutgers,hombre}!phri!roy "Arcane? Did you say arcane? It wouldn't be Unix if it wasn't arcane!"