[comp.protocols.appletalk] MacTCP

rickf@Apple.COM (Rick Fleischman) (02/09/90)

In article <Added.sZo4f5e00Ui3QDlU8U@andrew.cmu.edu> SPCLAR@MACALSTR.BITNET writes:
>How does one get MacTCP?
>        Is this an Apple product, or 3rd party, or PD?
>        How much does it cost (per copy, or for a site licence?)
>
>                Thanks,
>                        Pete Clark
>                        SPCLAR@MACALSTR.bitnet

MacTCP is an Apple product.  It is available for order from the Apple
Programmers and Developers Association (APDA).  You can reach APDA at:
(800) 282-2732 (U.S.), (800) 637-0029 (Canada), (408) 562-3910 (International)
or via e-mail at APDA@applelink.apple.com
or via U.S. mail at:
APDA
Apple Computer, Inc.
20525 Mariani Avenue, M/S 33-G
Cupertino, CA  95014

A single-use copy of MacTCP is available for $100 (P/N: M0230LL/B)
The documentation alone is also available for $60 (P/N: M0217LL/A)
Call for information about site licensing options.

Rick Fleischman
Developer Channels/APDA
Apple Computer, Inc.
e-mail: rickf@apple.com
AppleLink:  FLEISCHMAN@applelink.apple.com

CRISTINA@IRMIAS.BITNET (Cristina Tozzi) (02/13/90)

     Hi,
I'm developing software using MacTCP. I'm going to sell my program, can
I include MacTCP with it, or should I get a license from Apple ?
How much will it cost to me per copy?

Thanks,
Cristina.

--------------------------
Cristina Tozzi
Istituto di Astrofisica Spaziale
Frascati, Roma

rickf@Apple.COM (Rick Fleischman) (02/13/90)

In article <Added.4Zpkm6W00Ui38P8U9N@andrew.cmu.edu> CRISTINA@IRMIAS.BITNET (Cristina Tozzi) writes:
>
>     Hi,
>I'm developing software using MacTCP. I'm going to sell my program, can
>I include MacTCP with it, or should I get a license from Apple ?
>How much will it cost to me per copy?
>
>Thanks,
>Cristina.
>
>--------------------------
>Cristina Tozzi
>Istituto di Astrofisica Spaziale
>Frascati, Roma

You will definitely need a special license to ship software that includes
MacTCP.  The license is usually a flat fee (not per copy sold) and the
price varies depending upon who you are and how you are using the
software.  For information about licensing MacTCP contact:
Apple Software Licensing
20525 Mariani Avenue, M/S 38-I
Cupertino, CA  95014
Telephone: (408) 974-4667
e-mail:  SW.LICENSE@applelink.apple.com
AppleLink: SW.LICENSE

Rick Fleischman
Developer Channels/APDA
Apple Computer, Inc.
e-mail:  rickf@apple.com
AppleLink:  FLEISCHMAN@applelink.apple.com

klong@wilkins.bcm.tmc.edu (Kevin Long) (02/13/90)

In article <Added.4Zpkm6W00Ui38P8U9N@andrew.cmu.edu> CRISTINA@IRMIAS.BITNET (Cristina Tozzi) writes:
>
>I'm developing software using MacTCP. I'm going to sell my program, can
>I include MacTCP with it, or should I get a license from Apple ?
>How much will it cost to me per copy?
>
>Thanks,
>Cristina.
>--------------------------
>Cristina Tozzi
>Istituto di Astrofisica Spaziale
>Frascati, Roma


Use of MacTCP in a commercial product requires licensing by Apple.
Recently distributed licensing packages distributed by Apple do not
include information on licensing MacTCP.  You must specifically request
that information.  Most licensing fees are less than US$100. You must
license per product developed.  Educational institutions may obtain a
site license for MacTCP. 

Address a query to:

	Apple Computer Software Licensing
	20525 Mariani Avenue, M/S 38I
	Cupertino, CA  95014

	Telephone: (408) 976-4667/996-1010
	Telex: 171-576

It's actually quite painless.  I've licensed quite a few things over the
years.

	Kevin Long
	Baylor College of Medicine
	One Baylor Plaza
	Houston, TX  77030
	klong@bcm.tmc.edu

kdb@InterCon.com (Kurt Baumann) (02/14/90)

Well, to the best of my recollection we paid roughly $5,000 US for our license
to distribute MacTCP on our disks.  If it is less than $100 US I want to
know where the rest of my bucks went??? :-)  

The cost is $5,000 for commercial distribution of MacTCP, as per Apple licensing.

Kurt Baumann
--

paul@aucs.uucp (Paul Steele) (02/15/90)

How does one go about getting a copy of MacTCP?  I checked the Apple
price list and it isn't there.  We're getting a copy of Mac POP which
requires MacTCP, and I've certainly heard talk about the package, but
where is it?


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Acadia University BITNET:   Paul@Acadia  or  PHS@Acadia (preferred)
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pwrg6481@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (02/18/90)

MacTCP is available from APDA for $100 for a single user license.
You can call APDA at 1-800-282-2732. I have been using MacTCP with
NCSA Telnet 2.3 and tn3270 and really like it. You should, however,
get the patch that has been floating around this news group, since
there is apparently a problem with packet sizes sometimes. Check
with Steve Dorner (s-dorner@uiuc.edu). I am using the patched version
and have had no problems.

pr
--
Pete Resnick             (...so what is a mojo, and why would one be rising?)
Graduate assistant - Philosophy Department, Gregory Hall, UIUC
System manager - Cognitive Science Group, Beckman Institute, UIUC
Internet/ARPAnet/EDUnet  : resnick@kant.cogsci.uiuc.edu

ISSTTH@NUSVM.BITNET (TNG TaiHou) (06/03/91)

Hi. I have a problem with MacTCP (original). I have read the manual
but being not-networking inclined, I might have failed to understand
it. The MacTCP on my IIfx is configured 137.132.248.224. I can access
the name server on 137.132.248.13, plus all the sparcs that are linked
to it. I am using NCSATelnet MacTCP 2.3.4 (BYU version with FTP client).
I tried access apple.com through its ip address 130.43.2.2 or anything
but 137.132.x.x and Telnet simply refused to connect.
Can some kind soul explain to me what I am doing wrong?
Thanks a zillion.

Wayne.Wilson@med.umich.edu (06/03/91)

In article <E6D32C2DBEA00062@BITNET.CC.CMU.EDU> ISSTTH@NUSVM.BITNET (TNG  
TaiHou) writes:
> Hi. I have a problem with MacTCP (original). I have read the manual
> but being not-networking inclined, I might have failed to understand
> it. The MacTCP on my IIfx is configured 137.132.248.224. I can access
> the name server on 137.132.248.13, plus all the sparcs that are linked
> to it. I am using NCSATelnet MacTCP 2.3.4 (BYU version with FTP client).
> I tried access apple.com through its ip address 130.43.2.2 or anything
> but 137.132.x.x and Telnet simply refused to connect.
> Can some kind soul explain to me what I am doing wrong?
> Thanks a zillion.

  You need to tell us what your Gateway is set to and what your netmask is set  
to, and what it is supposed to be.  The first two are info from the MacTCP Cdev  
and the latter is from your network adminstrator.

mlbarrow@mit.edu (Michael Barrow) (06/07/91)

You can't FTP to Apple.com. I wouldn't be surprised if it has telnet access
off as well!

In article <E6D32C2DBEA00062@BITNET.CC.CMU.EDU>, ISSTTH@NUSVM.BITNET (TNG TaiHou) writes:
> 
> Hi. I have a problem with MacTCP (original). I have read the manual
> but being not-networking inclined, I might have failed to understand
> it. The MacTCP on my IIfx is configured 137.132.248.224. I can access
> the name server on 137.132.248.13, plus all the sparcs that are linked
> to it. I am using NCSATelnet MacTCP 2.3.4 (BYU version with FTP client).
> I tried access apple.com through its ip address 130.43.2.2 or anything
> but 137.132.x.x and Telnet simply refused to connect.
> Can some kind soul explain to me what I am doing wrong?
> Thanks a zillion.
> 
> 

Sean Willard (06/14/91)

In article <1991Jun7.041031.28432@athena.mit.edu> mlbarrow@mit.edu (Michael
Barrow) writes:
>
>You can't FTP to Apple.com. I wouldn't be surprised if it has telnet access
>off as well!

Sure you can. Not very exciting though...

sean

brett@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (Brett Morrow at University of Oklahoma) (06/14/91)

I have seen several people report that MacTCP does not work with virtual
memory and system 7.  What is the problem.  I have been running MacTCP 
and virtual together for sometime.  I do use it a lot with program 
such at NCSA Telnet and TN3270 and HyperFTP.


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dave@cmi.com (David Halonen) (06/17/91)

In article <14JUN91081356@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu> 
brett@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (Brett Morrow at University of Oklahoma) 
writes:
> I have seen several people report that MacTCP does not work with virtual
> memory and system 7.  What is the problem.  I have been running MacTCP 
> and virtual together for sometime.  I do use it a lot with program 
> such at NCSA Telnet and TN3270 and HyperFTP.
> 

I heard of someone successfully running a small VM partition w/ Sys7 & 
MacTCP.  How much RAM do you have and how big is your partition.  I've had 
major problems w/ 8MB RAM and allocating 3-4MB RAM under 24 bit mode Sys7.

David Halonen, Center for Machine Intelligence, Electronic Data Systems
Ann Arbor, MI (313) 995-0900
AppleLink: N0548  Internet: dave@cmi.com

brett@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (Brett Morrow at University of Oklahoma) (06/17/91)

In article <11161@etsu.CMI.COM>, dave@cmi.com (David Halonen) writes...
>In article <14JUN91081356@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu> 
>brett@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (Brett Morrow at University of Oklahoma) 
>writes:
>> I have seen several people report that MacTCP does not work with virtual
>> memory and system 7.  What is the problem.  I have been running MacTCP 
>> and virtual together for sometime.  I do use it a lot with program 
>> such at NCSA Telnet and TN3270 and HyperFTP.
>> 
> 
>I heard of someone successfully running a small VM partition w/ Sys7 & 
>MacTCP.  How much RAM do you have and how big is your partition.  I've had 
>major problems w/ 8MB RAM and allocating 3-4MB RAM under 24 bit mode Sys7.
> 
>David Halonen, Center for Machine Intelligence, Electronic Data Systems
>Ann Arbor, MI (313) 995-0900
>AppleLink: N0548  Internet: dave@cmi.com

I run with 5 meg physical ram and 10 meg of vertual. I run in 32 bit mode
most of the time, but I do go 24 sometimes.



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