[net.news.group] net.sci Consolidation Proposal

alb@alice.UUCP (Adam L. Buchsbaum) (06/08/84)

Look, we've been through this very recently.  While it may
be a decent idea to organize newsgroups, you simply CANNOT
rename them.  It doesn't work.  That's a proven fact (net.trivia).
Confusion, multiple postings, illegitimate groups, etc. all
come out of it, and with this large a scale involved, the
problems would all be multiplied.  

The thing to do is now start organizing new groups.  When
the old ones die away (granted, it may take a few years),
the net will slowly become more clean.  You cannot do it overnight.

Adam

chuqui@nsc.UUCP (Chuq Von Rospach) (06/08/84)

This discussion keeps coming up, we keep getting bogged down in arguing
about it, and nothing happens. I think that net.sci (and nsc.cs, remember
it, folks?) are both GOOD ideas and should be created. I think the
consolidation is a GOOD idea but we need to take it slowly so that it is
done right. I think it is time to bite the bullet on this one. If there
isn't an amazing outcry in a week or so I'm going to create net.sci. After
it shows up we can consider how to get everything into subgroups where they
belong but I think the time has come to define some new main (and
generalized) topics. 

chuq
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chris@umcp-cs.UUCP (06/09/84)

*	From: alb@alice.UUCP

	... While it may be a decent idea to organize newsgroups,
	you simply CANNOT rename them.  It doesn't work.  That's a
	proven fact (net.trivia).  Confusion, multiple postings,
	illegitimate groups, etc. all come out of it, and with this
	large a scale involved, the problems would all be multiplied.  

While I'm not claiming this is not true, is this not an assumption?
Have we ever tried major restructuring?  It could be that the larger
scale would make things easier.

(But I doubt it.)
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alb@alice.UUCP (Adam L. Buchsbaum) (06/09/84)

We have never tried major restructuring, but we have done
it on a minor scale (the first Great Apocolypse is I-forget-
how-many-years-old now; people still use net.trivia.  There
were also more problems than that) a few times, and each time
there was screaming and yelling and people who didn't know
what was going on and confusion and ... I hate to think what
would happen on a major level.

kechkayl@ecn-ee.UUCP (06/12/84)

#R:stat-l:-9000:ecn-ee:23900003:000:681
ecn-ee!kechkayl    Jun 12 00:41:00 1984


>>/***** ee:net.news.group / alice!alb /  2:21 pm  Jun  9, 1984 */
>>We have never tried major restructuring, but we have done
>>it on a minor scale (the first Great Apocolypse is I-forget-
>>how-many-years-old now; people still use net.trivia.  There
>>were also more problems than that) a few times, and each time
>>there was screaming and yelling and people who didn't know
>>what was going on and confusion and ... I hate to think what
>>would happen on a major level.


If you will look, there are NO articles in net.trivia, and seven or
eight in net.games.trivia. I think the 'Great Apocolypse' has passed.


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