[comp.ai.digest] K. Godel.

gordon@stats.ucl.ac.UK ("Gordon Joly, Statistics, UCL") (07/18/88)

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Subject: K. Godel.
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 88 12:53 EDT
From: "Gordon Joly, Statistics, UCL" <gordon%stats.ucl.ac.uk@ESS.Cs.Ucl.AC.UK>

>From AIList Digest   V8 #6

[ Date: 6 Jul 88 17:04:13 GMT
[ >From: mcvax!ukc!etive!aiva!jeff@uunet.uu.net  (Jeff Dalton)
[ Subject: Re: Free Will-Randomness and Question-Structure
[ 
[ In article <304@proxftl.UUCP> bill@proxftl.UUCP (T. William Wells) writes:
[ ] Actually, the point was just that: when I say that something is
[ ] true in a mathematical sense, I mean just one thing: the thing
[ ] follows from the chosen axioms;
[ 
[ "True" is not the same as "follows from the axioms".  See Godel et al.

Mathematical axioms spawn proofs (not truths). Godel's theorem says you
may find a proposition you cannot prove with your "chosen axioms".

Way out. Make the statement you cannot prove an axiom, taking care not
to get an unbounded number of axioms.

I look forward to axiomatic engineering and axiomatic political
science.

Gordon Joly.

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