mjj@stda.jhuapl.edu (Marshall Jose) (06/29/88)
Just a short one to inquire as to why I never see much at all on this group about Frame Maker. I've been using it on my Sun 3/50 for about 1-1/2 years, and it has served me very well, both for the usual sort of text work as well as for viewgraphs here. And, in what could be considered an inexcusable abuse of software, I've even used it to make camera-ready printed-circuit artwork! While it is arguably not adequate for general-purpose commercial typesetting, it does more than live up to Frame's claim of a "desktop- publishing package for mainstream UN*X users." For 98% of internal and limited-distribution-external copy work, in my estimation Frame Maker seems to do the job. I'm just puzzled that I don't hear more about it. For example, does anybody have comments about Frame's entry in the Mac market? Pretty overpriced, huh? Marshall Jose mjj@aplvax.jhuapl.edu || ...!mimsy!aplcen!aplvax!mjj Disclaimer: I have no pecuniary interests in Frame Technology or any of its subsidiaries, nor does JHU. The opinions expressed are solely mine. ---------------------------------------- Submissions to: desktop@plaid.sun.com Administrivia to: desktop-request@plaid.sun.com UUCP: {amdahl,decwrl,hplabs,ihnp4}!sun!plaid!desktop{-request} Archives can be gotten from the archive-server. To get information on the archive-server, send mail to: archive-server@plaid.sun.com -or- sun!plaid!archive-server with a subject line of help
john@mplvax.nosc.MIL (John McInerney) (06/30/88)
> For example, does anybody have comments about Frame's entry >in the Mac market? Pretty overpriced, huh? I have looked at FrameMaker and Arbortex's WYSIWYG and I am disturbed at Frame's attitude toward pricing. The very best that they were ever able to do was at a per workstation cost that seems unacceptable for any site whose primary business is not publishing. They have not budged in over a year of dealing with them on a reasonable site license. I am not looking to rip anyone off, but there is no way I am going to dedicate a few specific workstations for "word processing." And there is no way I am going to pay their fairly large fee for each and every workstation at my site. My understanding is that Arbortex is a bit more progressive in regard to licensing. I have heard that they will offer a "site" license with the understanding that no more than the agreed upon number of users will use the product simultaneously. My only problem with the Arbortex product is that we are not a TeX site, so I would take some time to get up to speed there. Speaking of WYSIWYG for Suns, I have heard that Sun plans on using a "Frame Like" product for all of the one-line documentation. Does anyone know any details about this. Does this mean that such a product will need to be purchased to read on-line manual pages etc? It would be nice if it was competitively priced..... -- John McInerney john@sdcsvax.ucsd.edu ---------------------------------------- Submissions to: desktop@plaid.sun.com Administrivia to: desktop-request@plaid.sun.com UUCP: {amdahl,decwrl,hplabs,ihnp4}!sun!plaid!desktop{-request} Archives can be gotten from the archive-server. To get information on the archive-server, send mail to: archive-server@plaid.sun.com -or- sun!plaid!archive-server with a subject line of help