chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) (05/18/89)
I'm looking for recommendations for Macintosh typefaces for a specific
application. I need something that can be printed on a laserwriter, is
decent looking and photocopiable at smaller sizes and fairly compressed.
This face would be used for a relatively short newsletter where reproduction
costs are a top priority, but we don't want to ship something that's
inexpensive but unreadable.
I'm currently using Times Roman as the best compromise for small (9pt)
faces, but I'm thinking something like Helvetica Compressed might allow me
to squeeze the text a little more. Any suggestions on how to get the most
text on the fewest pages without turning it into a useless document?
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This is....The Voice....of USENET....in special English. 1300UTC on 11525. briand@tekig4.LEN.TEK.COM (Brian Diehm) (05/19/89)
>I'm currently using Times Roman as the best compromise for small (9pt) >faces, but I'm thinking something like Helvetica Compressed might allow me >to squeeze the text a little more. Any suggestions on how to get the most >text on the fewest pages without turning it into a useless document? > >chuq Chuq - Helvetica Compressed is actually LESS compressed than plain N Helvetica Narrow. The difference is that Helvetica Compressed is truly a designed typeface, whereas N Helvetica Narrow is a mathematical compression of standard Helvetica. It is done inside the LaserWriter by operating on Helvetica. The Compressed looks more refined. Of course, Adobe recommends Compressed over Narrow, both for Adobe profit ;-) and because a designed style always looks better than a manipulated one. -- -Brian Diehm Tektronix, Inc. (503) 627-3437 briand@tekig4.LEN.TEK.COM P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-383 Beaverton, OR 97077 (SDA - Standard Disclaimers Apply)
john@trigraph.UUCP (John Chew) (05/19/89)
In article <30962@apple.Apple.COM> chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) writes: >I'm currently using Times Roman as the best compromise for small (9pt) >faces, but I'm thinking something like Helvetica Compressed might allow me >to squeeze the text a little more. Any suggestions on how to get the most >text on the fewest pages without turning it into a useless document? While Helvetica Condensed or Helvetica Compressed are infinitely more readable than that abhomination Helvetica Narrow, I still find that reading large amounts of body text set in either makes me wish that the cost-readability tradeoff had been pushed a bit further toward higher readability. They are condensed typefaces and have a condensed appearance: they don't look like real typefaces to me. And though I dislike it in larger (>= 12 pt) sizes, there's nothing like Lucida Sans for retention of readability at really tiny (<9 pt) sizes. I have put out a reference card in Lucida Sans 5/6 pt with only a few obligatory remarks from its readers about microscopes. I would suggest Lucida Sans 7/8 pt for the body text of a newsletter where space is a main concern. Lucida Sans Italic is also acceptable at extremely small sizes, though the Bold and Bold Italic styles suffer. Beware too that the serifs on Lucida itself are not handled very well at small sizes. John -- john j. chew, iii phone: +1 416 425 3818 AppleLink: CDA0329 trigraph, inc., toronto, canada {uunet!utai!utcsri,utgpu,utzoo}!trigraph!john dept. of math., u. of toronto poslfit@{utorgpu.bitnet,gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca}