ries@venice.SEDD.TRW.COM (Marc Ries) (11/28/89)
Anyone have any opinions (8-)) or warnings, etc., about the following laser printers? I plan to use them with a Packard Bell 286 with some (as yet undecided) desk-top-publishing software [basically to publish a "newsletter with graphics"]. The Choices: HP LaserJet IIP $999 (HP LaserJett II mode, 512K memory, 15 internal fonts (?), 4PPG, 300dpi, etc.) Packard Bell PB 9500: $1195 (HP LaserJet II mode, 1.5MB memory, 2 font slots, 6PPG, 6internal fonts, 300dpi) Epson EPL-6000: $995 (HP LJ II+ mode, 512K memory, 2 font slots, 6PPG, 6internal fonts, 300dpi) PS: The PB 9500 seems like the "Best Buy" due to the added standard memory. I'm not sure what the Epson's HP LJ II+ compatibility gets you about HP LJ II mode. On the other hand, buying the HP IIP is the "safe" bet, since you know everbody and their mother are going to support it. NOTE: The Pacific Data "25-In-One" and "Postscript" carts is (in their mode recent ad, "HP LaserJet IIP" compatible. The memory listed above is standard, all can expand to 4 to 4.5MB. -- Marc Ries ries@venice.sedd.trw.com (ARPA) somewhere!trwind!venice!ries (UUCP) #include <std.disclaimer>
dhosek@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (D.A. Hosek) (11/28/89)
I haven't personally used any of the laser printers mentioned in the posting that this follows up, but one important caveat to anyone looking at "HP compatible" laser printers: choose your software first and make sure that its HP output can print on the printer. Many printers that claim to be HP compatible in fact are not. (One exhaustive test of HP-compatible printers found only one printer claiming HPLJ+ compatibility that passed the test: the HP LJII!) -dh -- "Odi et amo, quare id faciam, fortasse requiris? nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior" -Catullus D.A. Hosek. UUCP: uunet!jarthur!dhosek Internet: dhosek@hmcvax.claremont.edu
hburford@enprt.Wichita.NCR.COM (Harry Burford) (11/29/89)
dhosek@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (D.A. Hosek) writes: >Many printers that claim to be HP compatible in >fact are not. (One exhaustive test of HP-compatible printers >found only one printer claiming HPLJ+ compatibility that passed >the test: the HP LJII!) >-dh >D.A. Hosek. UUCP: uunet!jarthur!dhosek Is this the same exhaustive test that PC Magazine did where they said ... "the NCR 6435 wore the true colors of HP on every test were the slightest hint of inexact HP emulation would be detected." ? Or, is this a different exhaustive test? I agree that the NCR 6435 does differ from a REAL HP in several ways ... the 6435 has better print quality and a lower cost of operation. (TEC based engine) hb -- Harry Burford - NCR Peripheral Products Division, Printer Products PHONE: 316-636-8016 TELEX: 417-465 FAX: 316-636-8889 SLOWNET: 3718 N. Rock Road, Wichita KS CALL: KA0TTY C-$erve: 76367,151 SS: 9.5 Harry.Burford@Wichita.NCR.COM
dhosek@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (D.A. Hosek) (11/30/89)
The test that I referred to was done by a U.K. university. The area where every non-HP printer failed was in font downloading. I don't have the time to track down the reference, although I'm fairly sure that it appeared in UKTeX (back issues are online at sun.soe.clarkson.edu and uk.ac.aston (for the UKers)). Incidentally, the test predated the IID and IIP and possibly many other "compatibles". The point was simply that one should make sure that one's software works with the printer (even if you're buying an HP since the software might have been tested on something else). -dh -- "Odi et amo, quare id faciam, fortasse requiris? nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior" -Catullus D.A. Hosek. UUCP: uunet!jarthur!dhosek Internet: dhosek@hmcvax.claremont.edu