[comp.mail.elm] What is elm?

daemon@hplabsc.UUCP (06/10/87)

I do realize that elm is a mail handling system, but beyond that I
know nothing about it.

I am in the market (so to speak) for a mail system that I can
easily bring up on a Unix SysV like system (HP-UX 5.2), and which,
like mh, allows one to preform various functions from the shell.
(I currently us mh and a csh program to presort my incoming mail by
reading headers.)  Does elm have these two properties?  (I would be
very surprised if it lacked the first!)

I am at a site which will be moving away from large time sharing
systems to smaller workstations (20 of which are HP9000s).  The
9000s have native Unix mail and Berkeley Mail (called mailx), as
well as HP's own NMail which is a very nice, powerful system that
has many mh like functions, but it is a menu driven mailer embedded
in a monster Emacs like environment called NMode.

I also have (limited) access the Unix mm (TOPS20 MM simulation).

With what I know now, I will go with porting mh to the 9000.  But
before I commit myself to that, I would like to give some of you
the chance to sell me on elm.

-jeff goldberg
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daemon@hplabsc.UUCP (06/13/87)

in article <1984@hplabsc.HP.COM>, goldberg@RUSSELL.STANFORD.EDU (Jeffrey Goldberg) says:
> I am in the market (so to speak) for a mail system that I can
> easily bring up on a Unix SysV like system (HP-UX 5.2), and which,
> like mh, allows one to preform various functions from the shell.
> (I currently us mh and a csh program to presort my incoming mail by
> reading headers.)  Does elm have these two properties?  (I would be
> very surprised if it lacked the first!)

Elm has a very flexible method of showing mail folders.  You can specify
an order of showing in every useful format.

> I am at a site which will be moving away from large time sharing
> systems to smaller workstations (20 of which are HP9000s).  The
> 9000s have native Unix mail and Berkeley Mail (called mailx), as
> well as HP's own NMail which is a very nice, powerful system that
> has many mh like functions, but it is a menu driven mailer embedded
> in a monster Emacs like environment called NMode.
> 
> I also have (limited) access the Unix mm (TOPS20 MM simulation).
> 
> With what I know now, I will go with porting mh to the 9000.  But
> before I commit myself to that, I would like to give some of you
> the chance to sell me on elm.
> 
> -jeff goldberg


Elm is much better than mh.  I have had to deal with that question
before.  While mh is command line driven, ELM is run from a menu.  Also,
mh does not give you anything near the capability of the a)lias mode in
ELM which allows you to set aliases to systems across the country based
on pathalias.

Accept no substitutes.  ELM is the finest mailer available on UNIX today.

If you are lucky enough to be running ELM on a SUN, I just got ELM ported
to SUN3, and I will be posting an ELMTOOL -- a graphics interface over ELM.

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