jos@idca.tds.PHILIPS.nl (Jos Vos) (10/17/88)
In Europe we didn't receive Elm 2.1 until now. Does anyone know where Elm 2.1 is queued at this moment? Is it really posted? -- -- ###### Jos Vos ###### Internet jos@idca.tds.philips.nl ###### -- ###### ###### UUCP ...!mcvax!philapd!jos ######
syd@dsinc.UUCP (Syd Weinstein) (10/19/88)
Yes it was posted, and NO I don't know where it is in the queue.
comp.sources.unix was quiet from Sep 15 until Oct 15, but Rich
did ack receiving Elm. I would expect it should be soon, but
I cannot say for sure.
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{allegra,bellcore,bpa,vu-vlsi}!dsinc!syd FAX: (215) 938-0235zeeff@b-tech.ann-arbor.mi.us (Jon Zeeff) (10/20/88)
I suggest that someone with a public access uucp site ftp it from (I forget where it is) and make it available. I got my copy via ftp and it's fairly nice (although I find it hard to believe that it was released with portability bugs that lint makes obvious). -- Jon Zeeff Branch Technology, umix!b-tech!zeeff zeeff@b-tech.ann-arbor.mi.us
jim@b-mrda.UUCP (Jim Sadler) (10/23/88)
Where can elm 2.1 be ftp 'd from, preferably non-UUCP type.
vixie@decwrl.dec.com (Paul Vixie) (10/26/88)
In article <3430003@b-mrda.UUCP> jim@b-mrda.UUCP (Jim Sadler) writes:
# Where can elm 2.1 be ftp 'd from, preferably non-UUCP type.
We've got a copy on gatekeeper.dec.com (128.45.9.52):
-r--r--r-- 1 vixie 627687 Oct 10 22:07 ~/ftp/pub/elm2.1.tar.Z
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Play: paul@vixie.sf.ca.us vixie!paul +1 415 864 7013tba@sirius.UUCP (Todd Aubin) (10/26/88)
> In article <3430003@b-mrda.UUCP> jim@b-mrda.UUCP (Jim Sadler) writes: > # Where can elm 2.1 be ftp 'd from, preferably non-UUCP type. > > We've got a copy on gatekeeper.dec.com (128.45.9.52): Can I take it then that us uucp-only folks are cut of? Does ANYONE know 1) when elm 2.1 will be posted or 2) a uucp accessible site where it may be copied from? thanks todd aubin -- Todd Aubin @ Northern Telecom ..!dartvax!sirius!tba
skl@van-bc.UUCP (Samuel Lam) (10/26/88)
In article <18@gnome6.pa.dec.com>, vixie@decwrl.dec.com (Paul Vixie) wrote: >In article <3430003@b-mrda.UUCP> jim@b-mrda.UUCP (Jim Sadler) writes: >> Where can elm 2.1 be ftp 'd from, preferably non-UUCP type. > >We've got a copy on gatekeeper.dec.com (128.45.9.52): > >-r--r--r-- 1 vixie 627687 Oct 10 22:07 ~/ftp/pub/elm2.1.tar.Z Is the initial round of official patches available for FTP from anywhere? -- Samuel Lam {alberta,watmath,uw-beaver,ubc-vision}!ubc-cs!van-bc!skl
vixie@decwrl.dec.com (Paul Vixie) (10/26/88)
In article <18@gnome6.pa.dec.com>, I wrote:
# We've got a copy on gatekeeper.dec.com (128.45.9.52):
#
# -r--r--r-- 1 vixie 627687 Oct 10 22:07 ~/ftp/pub/elm2.1.tar.Z
Apologies to anyone who grabbed it, including the person who told me that
their copy was corrupted. I tried to unpack my copy, and it was munged.
I'm interested in finding a copy of this via FTP, anybody have one?
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Play: paul@vixie.sf.ca.us vixie!paul +1 415 864 7013root@mjbtn.MFEE.TN.US (Mark J. Bailey) (10/26/88)
Where can those of us without ftp abilities get it using anon uucp or
file server requests?
Mark.
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DOMAIN: mjb@mjbtn.MFEE.US.TN | Murfreesboro, TN USAmike@aleytys.UU.NET (Michael Kent) (10/26/88)
In article <232@sirius.UUCP>, tba@sirius.UUCP (Todd Aubin) writes: > > Can I take it then that us uucp-only folks are cut of? > Does ANYONE know > 1) when elm 2.1 will be posted > or > 2) a uucp accessible site where it may be copied from? Here's the poop I got from the Elm Guy: Subject: Re: Anon. uucp instructions request To: aleytys.uu.NET!mike (Michael Kent) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 88 10:46:12 EDT From: Syd Weinstein <uunet!dsinc!syd> In-Reply-To: <8810160805.AA04572@aleytys.UU.NET>; from "Michael Kent" at Oct 16, 88 8:05 am X-Mailer: Elm [version 2.2dev PL10] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^---OOOHHH! Message-Id: <8810171046.AA17327@dsinc.UUCP> To retrive files from dsinc via anon. uucp use the following L.sys entry dsinc Any2300-0600 ACU Any 1-215-938-0470 ogin:-^M-ogin:-^M-ogin: anonuucp Note, no baud rate switch characters needed, the modems will follow the carrier type automatically for baud rates from 300 thru 19200. All lines support TB+ modems. TB+ users, set S50=255 as we set S92=1. Also note that the ^M sequence above needs to be replaced with a return (control M), I changed it to ^M here for readability. If your uucp supports \r for control M, then use that, else use a text editor and change the two character sequence ^M to a control M. Logins other than between 2300 and 0600 ET will be not be accepted. All files are in the directory /usr/spool/uucpanon. The ~ will expand to that directory. Files available from dsinc via anon. uucp: -r--r--r-- 1 root root 58423 Jun 5 21:22 rrn.1.tar.Z -r--r--r-- 1 root root 73207 Jun 5 21:22 rrn.2.tar.Z -r--r--r-- 1 root root 29167 Jun 5 21:22 rrn.3.tar.Z These three files make up start of a port of rrn for the ibm-pc running dos. It talks over an excelan tcpip link to a unix nntp server. -r--r--r-- 1 root root 69319 Jul 22 09:25 patch.tar.Z This one file is Larry Wall's patch utility at the current level of $Header: patch.c,v 2.0.1.6 88/06/22 20:46:39 lwall Locked $ Patch level: 12 -r--r--r-- 1 root root 69007 Aug 6 11:24 perl2.t1.Z -r--r--r-- 1 root root 21092 Aug 6 11:24 perl2.t2.Z -r--r--r-- 1 root root 34820 Aug 6 11:24 perl2.t3.Z -r--r--r-- 1 root root 56520 Aug 6 11:24 perl2.t4.Z -r--r--r-- 1 root root 54999 Aug 6 11:24 perl2.t5.Z -r--r--r-- 1 root root 27414 Aug 6 11:24 perl2.t6.Z -r--r--r-- 1 root root 70241 Aug 6 11:24 perl2.t7.Z -r--r--r-- 1 root root 53179 Sep 9 19:41 perl2.p14 These eight files are Larry Wall's perl utility at the current level of $Header: perly.c,v 2.0.1.6 88/08/05 01:29:43 root Exp $ Patch level: 13 Plus patch 14 making it after patching $Header: perly.c,v 2.0.1.7 88/09/07 16:57:47 lwall Locked $ Patch level: 14 -r--r--r-- 1 root root 141022 Sep 15 16:12 dist.tar.Z This one file is Larry Wall's distribution kit utility at the current patchlevel of Version 2, Patchlevel 2. -r--r--r-- 2 root root 46773 Sep 16 15:35 elm2.1.01.Z -r--r--r-- 2 root root 45088 Sep 16 15:35 elm2.1.02.Z -r--r--r-- 2 root root 44664 Sep 16 15:35 elm2.1.03.Z -r--r--r-- 2 root root 44267 Sep 16 15:35 elm2.1.04.Z -r--r--r-- 2 root root 42896 Sep 16 15:36 elm2.1.05.Z -r--r--r-- 2 root root 40727 Sep 16 15:36 elm2.1.06.Z -r--r--r-- 2 root root 41700 Sep 16 15:36 elm2.1.07.Z -r--r--r-- 2 root root 41201 Sep 16 15:36 elm2.1.08.Z -r--r--r-- 2 root root 41441 Sep 16 15:36 elm2.1.09.Z -r--r--r-- 2 root root 44042 Sep 16 15:36 elm2.1.10.Z -r--r--r-- 2 root root 28061 Sep 16 15:36 elm2.1.11.Z These twelve files are Elm Version 2.1 in shar format, or -r--r--r-- 2 root root 420601 Sep 16 15:35 elm2.1.tar.Z this one file is Elm Version 2.1 in tar format. Both are the same version. This is Elm 2.1 Patchlevel 0 as of September 16, 1988. Also pick up patch 1 to Elm 2.1. Send the archive-server@dsinc the message: send elm elm2.1.p1 -- ===================================================================== Sydney S. Weinstein, CDP, CCP Datacomp Systems, Inc. Voice: (215) 947-9900 {allegra,bellcore,bpa,vu-vlsi}!dsinc!syd FAX: (215) 938-0235 Dat's where I got it! -- Michael Kent INTERNET: mike@aleytys.UU.NET Center for M.C.E. UUCP: ...!{uflorida, uunet}!aleytys!mike 2521 NW 57th Pl. VOICE: +1-904-335-1573 Gainesville, Fl 32606 "These are MY opinions, get your own!"
jim@b-mrda.UUCP (Jim Sadler) (10/30/88)
Well now that we know where to UUCP it from I'm still looking for an ftp site. I thank gatekeeper.dec.com for the offer. Jim Sadler
len@netsys.COM (Len Rose) (11/01/88)
I will also be placing it on ames.arc.nasa.gov in the near future.
len@netsys.com
{ames,lll-winken,rutgers}!netsys!lenvogt@iaoobelix.UUCP (Gerald Vogt) (11/06/88)
After all I have seen about this subject, there seem to be many people,
that haven't got a copy of Elm 2.1 yet. I think, we in Europe didn't
get it at all. Wouldn't it be reasonable to repost it, so that everybody
gets the released version. Or, if it won't be reposted to comp.sources.unix,
perhaps somebody here in Europe, who has the whole distributed version
and the patches, can repost it to eunet.sources, when enough people think,
that this is more reasonable.
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EARN: isaak.uucp!vogt@unido.bitnetandre@targon.UUCP (andre) (11/07/88)
In article <251@iaoobelix.UUCP> vogt@isaak.UUCP (Gerald Vogt) writes: >After all I have seen about this subject, there seem to be many people, >that haven't got a copy of Elm 2.1 yet. I second the motion, please (re) post the Elm 2.1 sources, I've been waiting at least since last september for them to appear on comp.sources.unix. -- ~----~ |m AAA DDDD It's not the kill, but the thrill of the chase. ~|d1|~@-- AA AAvv vvDD DD Segment registers are for worms. ~----~ & AAAAAAAvv vvDD DD ~~~~~~ -- AAA AAAvvvDDDDDD Andre van Dalen, uunet!mcvax!targon!andre
vixie@decwrl.dec.com (Paul Vixie) (11/08/88)
After advertising a copy of Elm 2.1 that turned out to be corrupted, I ended up promising about five people (including Jordan in Europe who promised some ten other people) to get a "good" copy. Someone suggested that I get it from hawk.ulowell.edu. Hawk has yet to answer an ftp command, and I have tried every other day for the last ten days. Does anyone _else_ have a copy of Elm 2.1 that I can FTP for my archives and for all the people I've (directly and undirectly) promised it to? Send mail, don't post, I'll summarize if needed. -- Paul Vixie Work: vixie@decwrl.dec.com decwrl!vixie +1 415 853 6600 Play: paul@vixie.sf.ca.us vixie!paul +1 415 864 7013
boneill@hawk.ulowell.edu (SoftXc Coordinator) (11/08/88)
In article <38@gnome6.pa.dec.com> vixie@decwrl.dec.com (Paul Vixie) writes: >After advertising a copy of Elm 2.1 that turned out to be corrupted, I ended >up promising about five people (including Jordan in Europe who promised some >ten other people) to get a "good" copy. Someone suggested that I get it from >hawk.ulowell.edu. Hawk has yet to answer an ftp command, and I have tried >every other day for the last ten days. > Try swan.ulowell.edu (129.63.1.1). It is directly on the Internet. Hawk.ulowell.edu was down for over a week due to power supply problems. It's up now, but it would be safer to check swan first. I'll check with the operator about which version is where, and repost here when I find out. ============================================================================== Brian O'Neill, MS-DOS Software Exchange Coordinator ArpaNet: boneill@hawk.ulowell.edu UUCP: {(backbones),harvard,mit-eddie,et. al.}!ulowell!hawk.ulowell.edu!boneill
mhw@wittsend.LBP.HARRIS.COM (Michael H. Warfield) (11/09/88)
In article <457@targon.UUCP> andre@targon.UUCP (andre) writes: >I second the motion, please (re) post the Elm 2.1 sources, I've been >waiting at least since last september for them to appear on >comp.sources.unix. I keep seeing these cries for Elm 2.1 and I am also waiting for it to be posted. If there is some hold-up in the pipe can someone post where, what, why, and when. Maybe then the crying will die down a bit. Comp.sources.unix has been real quiet for a while, can someone check the moderator's pulse? I know he's probable busy and he's got a thankless job but at least a status update would be nice. --- Michael H. Warfield (The Mad Wizard) | gatech.edu!galbp!wittsend!mhw (404) 270-2123 / 270-2098 | mhw@wittsend.LBP.HARRIS.COM An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist is sure of it!
jim@b-mrda.UUCP (Jim Sadler) (11/09/88)
>/ b-mrda:comp.mail.elm / vogt@iaoobelix.UUCP (Gerald Vogt) / 2:07 pm Nov 5, 1988 / >After all I have seen about this subject, there seem to be many people, >that haven't got a copy of Elm 2.1 yet. I think, we in Europe didn't >get it at all. Wouldn't it be reasonable to repost it, so that everybody >gets the released version. Or, if it won't be reposted to comp.sources.unix, >perhaps somebody here in Europe, who has the whole distributed version >and the patches, can repost it to eunet.sources, when enough people think, >that this is more reasonable. >-- >Gerald Vogt >ISA GmbH - Informationssysteme fuer computerintegrierte Automatisierung >UUCP: ...{uunet!unido, pyramid!iaoobel}!isaak!vogt or vogt@isaak.UUCP >EARN: isaak.uucp!vogt@unido.bitnet ---------- And I'm still trying to find a ftp site !!!!!!!
jbayer@ispi.UUCP (id for use with uunet/usenet) (11/09/88)
In article <6468@galbp.LBP.HARRIS.COM>, mhw@wittsend.LBP.HARRIS.COM (Michael H. Warfield) writes: > > I keep seeing these cries for Elm 2.1 and I am also waiting for it to be > posted. If there is some hold-up in the pipe can someone post where, what, > why, and when. Maybe then the crying will die down a bit. Comp.sources.unix > has been real quiet for a while, can someone check the moderator's pulse? I > know he's probable busy and he's got a thankless job but at least a status > update would be nice. > I know a lot of people may be annoyed, but how about posting the sources (unofficially) in this group? Jonathan Bayer Intelligent Software Products, Inc.
david@bdt.UUCP (David Beckemeyer) (11/10/88)
In article <457@targon.UUCP> andre@targon.UUCP (andre) writes: >In article <251@iaoobelix.UUCP> vogt@isaak.UUCP (Gerald Vogt) writes: >>After all I have seen about this subject, there seem to be many people, >>that haven't got a copy of Elm 2.1 yet. > >I second the motion, please (re) post the Elm 2.1 sources, I've been >waiting at least since last september for them to appear on >comp.sources.unix. I'll third the motion. I've been waiting that long too and I'll bet there are many others too. I'm getting damned tired of hearing about bugs in 2.1 before I even get it! It seems like only those "in the know" have the darned thing. Can the rest of us "plain old sites" get it now please. -- David Beckemeyer (david@bdt.UUCP) | "Lester Moore - Four slugs from a .44 Beckemeyer Development Tools | no Les, no more." 478 Santa Clara Ave. Oakland, CA 94610 | - Headstone at Boot Hill UUCP: {uunet,ucbvax}!unisoft!bdt!david | Tombstone, AZ
syd@dsinc.UUCP (Syd Weinstein) (11/10/88)
In article <423@bdt.UUCP> david@bdt.UUCP (0000-David Beckemeyer) writes: >In article <457@targon.UUCP> andre@targon.UUCP (andre) writes: >>In article <251@iaoobelix.UUCP> vogt@isaak.UUCP (Gerald Vogt) writes: >>>After all I have seen about this subject, there seem to be many people, >>>that haven't got a copy of Elm 2.1 yet. As Elm coordinator, I did post the sources to comp.sources.unix and received an ack back from Rich that he recieved them. That was in mid September, 1988. I do not know the queue status of comp.sources.unix nor do I know the policies of its moderator. Remember in September and October the sources newsgroup was quiet so I do not know the backlog. Has anyone asked Rich. I have not as of yet, because, at first I understood that it took 30 days to get through rich's queue, it is now only about 60 days, and of that time over half, Rich was not around and therefore not posting anything. However, I do not recommend that we all go pester Rich, I am sure that also would only slow down the posting you are all waiting for. What I am doing is waiting for the internet virus queues to die down (after all Rich is on the internet from me) and the I will post him a simple query as to the position in the queue.) >I'm getting damned tired of hearing about bugs in 2.1 before I even >get it! It seems like only those "in the know" have the darned >thing. I'm getting damned tired :-) of hearing people complaining about the status of a free distribution. I, Rich, and all the people who work on Elm also have jobs. As the Elm list can agree, I disappear for a week at a time or so regularly and then do some Elm work again. I have kept quiet as the 'me too's started piling up in this group, but enough. If you really want it, spend the $$ and uucp it from an archive site. As was posted before there are several that have Elm 2.1 available, a couple of FTP sites and a couple of UUCP sites, including ours. Somehow all those 'in the know' got it, and even counting the Elm development group, they all got it via polling someone, either someone that polled dsinc, or polling dsinc directly. I am glad that everyone like Elm, but, some patience please, afterall USENET was a volunteer service, last time I looked. -- ===================================================================== Sydney S. Weinstein, CDP, CCP Datacomp Systems, Inc. Voice: (215) 947-9900 {allegra,bellcore,bpa,vu-vlsi}!dsinc!syd FAX: (215) 938-0235
jeff@cjsa.WA.COM (Jeffery Small) (11/11/88)
In article <457@targon.UUCP>, andre@targon.UUCP (andre) writes: > In article <251@iaoobelix.UUCP> vogt@isaak.UUCP (Gerald Vogt) writes: > >After all I have seen about this subject, there seem to be many people, > >that haven't got a copy of Elm 2.1 yet. > > I second the motion, please (re) post the Elm 2.1 sources, I've been > waiting at least since last september for them to appear on > comp.sources.unix. > I agree completely. I keep thinking that if I wait *just a little longer*, it will show up in the source group. I would like to respectfully request that the current person in charge of the source check with the comp.source.? group administrator and get a firm distribution date. If that can't be done, then I suggest that the source be posted to this group so that all interested parties can receive a copy. BTW, I was off the net for a brief period, and during that time the official administrator of the ELM source appears to have changed. Could the person or persons now in charge please post a brief summary of the current state of administration and development efforts. Thanks. -- Jeffery Small (206) 485-5596 uw-beaver!uw-nsr!uw-warp C. Jeffery Small and Associates !cjsa!jeff 19112 152nd Ave NE - Woodinville, WA 98072 uunet!nwnexus
boneill@hawk.ulowell.edu (SoftXc Coordinator) (11/11/88)
In article <10099@swan.ulowell.edu> I wrote: > >Try swan.ulowell.edu (129.63.1.1). It is directly on the Internet. >Hawk.ulowell.edu was down for over a week due to power supply problems. It's >up now, but it would be safer to check swan first. I'll check with the >operator about which version is where, and repost here when I find out. > I looked at what version was around. The original 2.1 beta test version was placed on swan.ulowell.edu for the test group to get via FTP. This is NOT the distribution version awaited in comp.sources.unix. ============================================================================== Brian O'Neill, MS-DOS Software Exchange Coordinator ArpaNet: boneill@hawk.ulowell.edu UUCP: {(backbones),harvard,mit-eddie,et. al.}!ulowell!hawk.ulowell.edu!boneill
howardl@wb3ffv.UUCP ( WB3FFV) (11/15/88)
In article <423@bdt.UUCP>, david@bdt.UUCP (David Beckemeyer) writes: > In article <457@targon.UUCP> andre@targon.UUCP (andre) writes: > >In article <251@iaoobelix.UUCP> vogt@isaak.UUCP (Gerald Vogt) writes: > >>After all I have seen about this subject, there seem to be many people, > >>that haven't got a copy of Elm 2.1 yet. > > > >I second the motion, please (re) post the Elm 2.1 sources, I've been > >waiting at least since last september for them to appear on > >comp.sources.unix. > > I'll third the motion. I've been waiting that long too and I'll bet > there are many others too. I believe I posted the information here before, but with so many comments I will list the information one more time (just incase I didn't :-).. For those who want to get a copy of the Elm-2.1 release, and are willing to foot the bill of the phone call (since it has been a NO-SHOW item in under comp.sources.unix), it is AVALIBLE for download from my BBS in Maryland. The system is running XBBS and supports Xmodem, Ymodem, Zmodem, Kermit, and several other protocols. The source for Elm-2.1 is located in the UNIX directory of the BBS, and anyone can download it (no validation required!). Here are some of the vitals on the BBS: System Name: wb3ffv Data stats : 8 bit, NO Parity, 1 Stop Phone Numbers: 1) 1200 & 2400 (NON-MNP) -- (301)-335-0858 2) 2400 (MNP), 9600 & 19200 (PEP) -- (301)-335-1955 The system is an 80386 machine running V/386 Release 3.0, and is genarally avalible to all 24hrs a day, except during routine mantinance periods. If anybody has any questions (incase I forgot somthing), just send them to the E-Mail address listed below... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internet : howardl@wb3ffv.ampr.org | Howard D. Leadmon UUCP : wb3ffv!howardl | Fast Computer Service, Inc. PACKET : WB3FFV @ W3ITM | P. O. Box 171 Telephone : (301)-335-2206 | Chase, MD 21027-0171