[comp.mail.elm] Cannot Undelete

pim@mrevox.UUCP (01/12/89)

I'm running elm 2.1 PL1 on UTS version 1.2.2.
My problem is that once a message is marked for deletion
I cannot access it to undelete it.

If you mark a message for deletion, you can scroll past it in
either direction but it bypasses the message marked for deletion.
This problem did not exist in elm 1.1

I did configure with the default shell as ksh, and do consider myself
a rookie with elm. 

Can anyone shed some light on this for me? Is it a configuration probelm?

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rob@pbhyf.PacBell.COM (Rob Bernardo) (01/12/89)

In article <24100001@mrevox.UUCP> pim@mrevox.UUCP writes:
+I'm running elm 2.1 PL1 on UTS version 1.2.2.
+My problem is that once a message is marked for deletion
+I cannot access it to undelete it.
+
+If you mark a message for deletion, you can scroll past it in
+either direction but it bypasses the message marked for deletion.
+This problem did not exist in elm 1.1

The 'j' and 'k' commands skip deleted messages, but the 'J' and 'K'
commands do not.
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jos@idca.tds.PHILIPS.nl (Jos Vos) (01/12/89)

In article <24100001@mrevox.UUCP> pim@mrevox.UUCP writes:

>My problem is that once a message is marked for deletion
>I cannot access it to undelete it.

The same occurs here. I think it's a feature :-) and not a bug.
But you *can* access that mail: just type the number of the message
and you can do a 'u' command.
If you don't frequently need to undelete messages, maybe the behaviour
of skipping read messages starts to look like a feature :-)

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vogt@iaoobelix.UUCP (Gerald Vogt) (01/13/89)

In article <24100001@mrevox.UUCP> pim@mrevox.UUCP writes:
>My problem is that once a message is marked for deletion
>I cannot access it to undelete it.

I think, this is a new feature of Elm 2.1. Elm skips messages, that are
skiped for deletion, if you use the 'usual' cursor keys 'jk' or the
extra cursor keys. If you want to move to deleted messages, you can use
'JK' (capital letters) instead. These two keys work like in older versions.

I, for myself, added a new option in Elm to choose, if you want to skip
deleted messages or not.
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mack@inco.UUCP (Dave Mack) (01/13/89)

In article <24100001@mrevox.UUCP> pim@mrevox.UUCP writes:
>I'm running elm 2.1 PL1 on UTS version 1.2.2.
>My problem is that once a message is marked for deletion
>I cannot access it to undelete it.
>
>If you mark a message for deletion, you can scroll past it in
>either direction but it bypasses the message marked for deletion.
>This problem did not exist in elm 1.1

This is a Feature. I think.

Try entering the number of the message and hitting return. It
should make the deleted message the current message, after which
you can read it, undelete it, etc.

Dave Mack

syd@dsinc.UUCP (Syd Weinstein) (01/13/89)

In article <24100001@mrevox.UUCP> pim@mrevox.UUCP writes:
>My problem is that once a message is marked for deletion
>I cannot access it to undelete it.
>
>If you mark a message for deletion, you can scroll past it in
>either direction but it bypasses the message marked for deletion.
>This problem did not exist in elm 1.1
One of the newer features in Elm is skipping over deleted messages.

So how does one get to them:
two ways:
1. direct addressing by message number
2. Use J and K instead of j and k.  The upper case ones do not
skip over deleted messages.  (Warning, my memory is weak, this
might be new to 2.2 and not in 2.1, however #1 always works)
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hack@merkin.cactus.org (Greg Hackney) (01/13/89)

In article <4516@pbhyf.PacBell.COM> rob@pbhyf.PacBell.COM (Rob Bernardo) writes:
>In article <24100001@mrevox.UUCP> pim@mrevox.UUCP writes:
>+I'm running elm 2.1 PL1 on UTS version 1.2.2.
>+My problem is that once a message is marked for deletion
>+I cannot access it to undelete it.
>
>The 'j' and 'k' commands skip deleted messages, but the 'J' and 'K'
>commands do not.

Also, you can type the article number and a return.
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rac@jc3b21.UUCP (Roger A. Cornelius) (01/13/89)

From article <4516@pbhyf.PacBell.COM>, by rob@pbhyf.PacBell.COM (Rob Bernardo):
< In article <24100001@mrevox.UUCP> pim@mrevox.UUCP writes:
< +I'm running elm 2.1 PL1 on UTS version 1.2.2.
< +My problem is that once a message is marked for deletion
< +I cannot access it to undelete it.
< +
< +If you mark a message for deletion, you can scroll past it in
< +either direction but it bypasses the message marked for deletion.
< +This problem did not exist in elm 1.1
< 
< The 'j' and 'k' commands skip deleted messages, but the 'J' and 'K'
< commands do not.

You can also jump directly to a message, whether deleted or not, by
typing the message number and pressing return.

Roger Cornelius

rcsmith@anagld.UUCP (Ray Smith) (01/13/89)

In article <24100001@mrevox.UUCP> pim@mrevox.UUCP writes:
+I'm running elm 2.1 PL1 on UTS version 1.2.2.
+My problem is that once a message is marked for deletion
+I cannot access it to undelete it.
+
+If you mark a message for deletion, you can scroll past it in
+either direction but it bypasses the message marked for deletion.
+This problem did not exist in elm 1.1


And in <4516@pbhyf.PacBell.COM>, rob@pbhyf.PacBell.COM (Rob Bernardo) offers:
>The 'j' and 'k' commands skip deleted messages, but the 'J' and 'K'
>commands do not.


Or you can select the message by entering the message number itself. This
ignores the "deleted" flag.
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