tom@ismdqa.intel.com (Tom Soukup ~) (05/04/89)
Hi There, We've just recently installed elm 2.2 on our uVax 3600 and I have a question for the elm guru's out there. We have a number of users who have just moved from a VMS system to Ultrix and the number 1 question they have about mail is can they save or print a mail message without the header. I don't see any option for doing this in elm, other that the noheader flag which only applies to replying to or forwarding messages. Is there something that I'm missing? Note that editing the file to remove the header manually is not acceptable to people who are use to the VMS mail EXTRACT/NOHEADER command. Thanks for any help. Tom ________________________________________________________________________________ DISCLAMER: Intel doesn't agree with much of anything that I say.
indra@hobbes.amd.com (Indra Singhal) (05/06/89)
In article <4030@mipos3.intel.com> tom@ismdqa.intel.com (Tom Soukup ~) writes: >... We have a number of users who have >just moved from a VMS system to Ultrix and the number 1 question they have >about mail is can they save or print a mail message without the header. A shell script is provided as part of the utilities called: printmail It prints mail separated either by a line of dashes or a page break. The amount of header information is just adequate. If you really really really dont want ANY header information, you can use the 'readmsg' utility with the '-n' flag. Infact, you could modify the 'printmail' script to invoke readmsg with the -n flag. (By the way, how would you know who, when and where the mail came from if you dont have any headers? But that is your concern.) Hope this helped. Indra K. Singhal {ucbvax,decwrl,allegra}!amdcad!indra indra@amdcad.AMD.COM (408) 749-5445(w)
tom@ismdqa.intel.com (Tom Soukup ~) (05/08/89)
In article <25536@amdcad.AMD.COM> indra@hobbes.AMD.COM (Indra Singhal) writes: >In article <4030@mipos3.intel.com> tom@ismdqa.intel.com (Tom Soukup ~) writes: >>about mail is can they save or print a mail message without the header. > >A shell script is provided as part of the utilities called: printmail >It prints mail separated either by a line of dashes or a page break. >The amount of header information is just adequate. > >If you really really really dont want ANY header information, you can use the >'readmsg' utility with the '-n' flag. Infact, you could modify the 'printmail' >script to invoke readmsg with the -n flag. (By the way, how would you know who, >when and where the mail came from if you dont have any headers? But that is your >concern.) Unfortunatly, I have found that the majority of users that I deal with expect that the applications that they use to be simple and convienent to use. This means that all the options that they need are included in the application. In this case, for example, they do not want to have to remember that there are additional applications which will strip mail headers for them. The decision to save the message with or without headers is made while in elm, reading the message. The user doesn't want to have to remember that messages x, y and z need to be saved after they finish reading all of their mail and exit elm. As to why someone might want to do this, most of the mail that is sent around here is reports or memos which already have to, from subject and cc information. The information in the mail header is usually redundant and often not understood by the casual user. Thanks for the info on readmsg and printmail however. I had not seen them yet. I'll probably make use of them myself, even though they are not exactly what I need for other users. Regards, Tom ________________________________________________________________________________ DISCLAMER: Intel doesn't agree with much of anything that I say.