tim@attdso.att.com (Tim J Ihde) (05/16/89)
In article <32@wave4.webo.dg.com> tom@wave4.dg.com (Tom Jordahl) writes: >In article <9336@b-tech.ann-arbor.mi.us> zeeff@b-tech.ann-arbor.mi.us (Jon Zeeff) writes: >>>I would rather see enhancements to the pager that noone has objected to, >>>such as being able to scroll backwards within a message, like less. >> >>I would definitely like to see someone add this. Even a simple 1 page >>scroll back would be useful. > >I simply use less as the default pager. Do many people do this? Is more >used for this default? Why would you use the built-in pager if more powerfull >pagers are "standard" ( I am referring to more here) on your system? Well, I used less as my pager under elm 1.5. Since we've upgraded to 2.2, I've begun using the builtin pager. It depends upon what you mean by powerful . . . The primary reason I switched is the ability to enter elm commands at the pager prompt. I can look at the first page of a message, hit d to delete it, and the next message just pops up. Similar to what you can do at the index prompt, only now I'm looking at the entire first page instead of just the subject. Granted this wouldn't be such a wonderful advantage at 1200 baud, but at 9.6 I like it. Most of the other elm commands are also available at the pager prompt (save, print, reply, bounce, etc). Works quite nicely. It would be very nice to be able to scroll backwords, although except for HUGE messages just hitting 'h' will get you back to the top. If it does get put in, then someone please think carefully about what keys to use (I still occasionally use the less command 'u' to try to scroll up in rn, but end up unsubscribing to the current newsgroup - argh!). -- Tim J Ihde INTERNET: tim@attdso.att.com (201) 898-6687 UUCP: att!attdso!tim "Blimey - this redistribution of wealth is more complicated than I'd thought!" - Dennis Moore and various Presidents
rob@PacBell.COM (Rob Bernardo) (05/17/89)
In article <1643@attdso.att.com> tim@attdso.att.com (Tim J Ihde) writes:
+It would be very nice to be able to scroll backwords, although except for
+HUGE messages just hitting 'h' will get you back to the top. If it does get
+put in, then someone please think carefully about what keys to use (I
+still occasionally use the less command 'u' to try to scroll up in rn, but end
+up unsubscribing to the current newsgroup - argh!).
There might be some tight constraints here, as the commands to move backwards
in the enhanced builtin pager can be none of the "index screen commands"
that are available while in the builtin pager. :-(
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In article <5301@pbhyf.PacBell.COM> rob@PacBell.COM (Rob Bernardo) writes: >In article <1643@attdso.att.com> tim@attdso.att.com (Tim J Ihde) writes: >+It would be very nice to be able to scroll backwards . . . If it does get >+put in, then someone please think carefully about what keys to use (I >+still occasionally use the less command 'u' to try to scroll up in rn, but end >+up unsubscribing to the current newsgroup - argh!). > >There might be some tight constraints here, as the commands to move backwards >in the enhanced builtin pager can be none of the "index screen commands" >that are available while in the builtin pager. :-( Well, no one said it would be easy :-). How about ^F and ^B? Works for vi and less. Or: how about recognizing the - and + keys as paging backwards/forwards through the message? This would be consistent with - and + paging through the index (which I can't see wanting to do from the pager), and I can't think of any other programs this would conflict with. -- Tim J Ihde INTERNET: tim@attdso.att.com (201) 898-6687 UUCP: att!attdso!tim