jfh@netcom.UUCP (Jack Hamilton) (03/02/90)
It doesn't appear possible to use Elm as the mailer for the RN "r"
function. Elm doesn't have a way to read in the header file that RN
writes.
I'd rather use Elm than the RN mailer. Am I overlooking something? If I'm
not, please consider this to be a suggestion.
--
Jack Hamilton
jfh@netcom.com (UUCP)
netcom!jfh@sun.com (Internet, maybe)
scs@iti.org (Steve Simmons) (03/02/90)
jfh@netcom.UUCP (Jack Hamilton) writes: >It doesn't appear possible to use Elm as the mailer for the RN "r" >function. Elm doesn't have a way to read in the header file that RN >writes. >I'd rather use Elm than the RN mailer. Am I overlooking something? If I'm >not, please consider this to be a suggestion. This is a feature, not a bug. Elm is a user agent, not a transport agent. As such, it insulates the user from all those crufty things like headers, etc. Rn needs a more primitive ua (like /bin/mail) or to talk directly to the transport agent. After all, if rn is generating all the headers/etc for you, why do you want elm?
jfh@netcom.UUCP (Jack Hamilton) (03/03/90)
In article <5064@itivax.iti.org> scs@iti.org (Steve Simmons) writes: >jfh@netcom.UUCP (Jack Hamilton) writes: > >>I'd rather use Elm than the RN mailer. Am I overlooking something? If I'm >>not, please consider this to be a suggestion. > >This is a feature, not a bug. Elm is a user agent, not a transport >agent. As such, it insulates the user from all those crufty things >like headers, etc. Rn needs a more primitive ua (like /bin/mail) >or to talk directly to the transport agent. After all, if rn is >generating all the headers/etc for you, why do you want elm? I want elm to insulate me from from all those crufty things like headers. I want to be able to use my elm aliases. I want to be able to modify my .signature before it goes out, perhaps. I want to have only one mailer to deal with, not two. Enough reasons? In any case, I don't see how you can describe the LACK of an option as a feature, even if it's not a bug. "Feature" implies something desirable. -- Jack Hamilton jfh@netcom.com (UUCP) netcom!jfh@apple.com (Internet, if you're lucky)
lemke@radius.UUCP (Steve Lemke) (03/08/90)
In article <5064@itivax.iti.org> scs@iti.org (Steve Simmons) writes: }jfh@netcom.UUCP (Jack Hamilton) writes: } }>It doesn't appear possible to use Elm as the mailer for the RN "r" }>function. Elm doesn't have a way to read in the header file that RN }>writes. } }>I'd rather use Elm than the RN mailer. Am I overlooking something? If I'm }>not, please consider this to be a suggestion. } }This is a feature, not a bug. Elm is a user agent, not a transport }agent. As such, it insulates the user from all those crufty things }like headers, etc. Rn needs a more primitive ua (like /bin/mail) }or to talk directly to the transport agent. After all, if rn is ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ }generating all the headers/etc for you, why do you want elm? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gee, I'm glad you asked (and I'm glad Steve asked in the first place). I would like to use elm with rn because then all my replies to messages on usenet would be saved in my elm "outbox". Frequently I'll think "Gee, I know I sent a reply to someone about that, but I don't have a copy of it anywhere!" -- If I had used elm through rn, I would have a copy. I guess I _could_ cc: myself, but I don't usually think of it. Perhaps I could modify the rn code to include a "cc: lemke" line in the reply header. -- ----- Steve Lemke, Engineering Quality Assurance, Radius Inc., San Jose ----- ----- Reply to: radius!lemke@apple.com (Coming soon: radius.com ...) -----
alan@oetl.UUCP (Alan Strassberg) (03/10/90)
In article <1249@radius.UUCP> radius!lemke@apple.com writes: > >I would like to use elm with rn because then all my replies to messages >on usenet would be saved in my elm "outbox". Frequently I'll think "Gee, Well, one possibility is: (from rn command line) !elm <esc>t This has the effect of a shell escape to elm with the 'From' line of the header. <esc> above is escape. Note: if you use csh you'll need to have -ESHELL=/bin/sh in your .rninit file (or csh will try to find an event for the !). All kinds of wonderful variables are available from within rn by this technique. Try !<esc>h right now to see the help screen. Example: !<esc>z will tell you how many bytes are in this posting. alan -- Alan Strassberg alan@oetl.scf.lockheed.com (408) 425-6139 ...!uunet!lstc!oetl!alan
leoh@hardy.hdw.csd.harris.com (Leo Hinds) (03/14/90)
In article <515@oetl1.oetl.UUCP> alan@oetl.UUCP (Alan Strassberg) writes: > !elm <esc>t true ... but that does not "read in" the text of the message being mailed about leoh@hdw.csd.harris.com Leo Hinds (305)973-5229 Gfx ... gfx ... :-) whfg orpnhfr V "ebg"grq zl fvtangher svyr lbh guvax V nz n creireg ?!!!!!!? ... znlor arkg gvzr