ssridhar@risky.Convergent.COM (Srinivasan Sridhar) (11/16/90)
This is primarily to the ELM developers, but other users can share their collective wisdom with me. Having aliases with approximately 50-75 names cause aliases to expand into long lists. So it the body of a message is 10 lines, about 50 lines of text with reciepients' names are in the mail header. Is there any way to supress this? i.e., an option in ELM asking the user to supress/expand aliases when mailing to the entire list. I'm sure many ELM users with large alias combinations would agree to this as being a useful feature. BTW, mailx/sendmail has this feature but other ELM features are far and more superior ............ ___ sridhar ===================================================================== ssridhar@convergent.com ...This is the end -Jim Morrison =====================================================================
tim@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (/// Moebius )) (11/19/90)
(Srinivasan Sridhar) writes: >names are in the mail header. Is there any way to supress this? >i.e., an option in ELM asking the user to supress/expand aliases >when mailing to the entire list. Correct me if I'm wrong (it's happened before) but try sending the mail to yourself or any other singular user. Then, before sending the message change the 'Bcc:' header to point to your aliases. Alternatively, set up a scriptfile which mails each user individually some given file. -- +--- /~~| /~~~\ --------------------------------------------------------------+ | / | \/~\ \ Tim Elliott: Anxiously Awaiting The Yankovic World Tour | | / /| |_ / / /// Moebius Wilbury \\\ can be found at Genghis@uiuc.edu | | |___ _|/ /__ Anxiously Awaiting the New Madrid Earthquake. (Dec 3rd) | +---- |_| /_____| ------------------------------------------------------------+
Steve.Bridges@Dayton.NCR.COM (Steve Bridges) (11/20/90)
In <1990Nov17.025038.16916@lokkur.dexter.mi.us> scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us (Steve Simmons) writes: >ssridhar@risky.Convergent.COM (Srinivasan Sridhar) writes: >>This is primarily to the ELM developers, but other users can share >>their collective wisdom with me. Having aliases with approximately >>50-75 names cause aliases to expand into long lists. So it the body >>of a message is 10 lines, about 50 lines of text with reciepients' >>names are in the mail header. Is there any way to supress this? >>i.e., an option in ELM asking the user to supress/expand aliases >>when mailing to the entire list. >>I'm sure many ELM users with large alias combinations would agree >>to this as being a useful feature. >>BTW, mailx/sendmail has this feature but other ELM features are far >>and more superior ............ >It would be a nice feature, but it's not amenable to an elm-only solution. >In elm, you have personal aliases which are known only to you (or in >the case of Elm system aliases, only to other Elm users). You generate >mail with elm, then hand it off to a "delivery agent" to be delivered. >The mailx/sendmail you cite are typical delivery agents. When a >message reaches a delivery agent for processing, the delivery agent >checks all the names that appear local (eg, "someone@this.system" or >simply "someone") against an alias list. If it finds the alias in the >list, it silently expands that alias into all the recipients and >explodes the mail out to all of them without putting them all in >the 'To:' field. >For elm aliases to work as you describe, all delivery agent(s) would >have to be modified. They would have to look back into your account, >find the alias, expand it silently, then do the delivery. That's an >interesting idea, but it's not something that's under the control of >elm or the elm developers. Here, we use smail as our delivery agent. To avoid the lines and lines of expanded aliases, I set up distribution lists and let smail expand the aliases contained in the distribution lists. This avoids the lines and lines of expanded aliases. To make the distribution lists known to elm, I but a sample entry in /usr/local/lib/aliases.text (just an example): all = All Tower Users = all This alias (for elm) referes to all the users on my 2 machines. Then, for smail in /usr/lib/mail/aliases, I have the following entry: all distlist:/usr/lib/mail/all.dist Of course, the corresponding entry has to be made in /usr/lib/mail/rmail.cf: MAILER distlist readfile %I And it works just fine. -- Steve Bridges | NCR - USG Product Marketing and Support OLS Steve.Bridges@Dayton.NCR.COM | Phone:(513)-445-4182 622-4182 (Voice Plus) ..!ncrlnk!usglnk!uspm650!steve | AOPA #916233 ..!uunet!ncrlnk!usglnk!uspm650!steve| PP-ASEL, AMEL (I want a P-38 type rating)