[comp.mail.elm] Instructions for getting patches for those w/out ftp access

larry@dprmpt.UUCP (Larry) (02/11/91)

In article <john.664306316@csrnxt1.ae.utexas.edu> john@csrnxt1.ae.utexas.edu (John R. Schutz) writes:
>Hopefully this will cure some of the postings asking for elm patches.
>There is a mail server at the address bitftp@pucc.princeton.edu that
>will emulate ftping to any site.  Anyways, here is a sample for
>getting all the elm source and all patches from mthvax.cs.miami.edu.
>
     some text deleted........
>
>that's it!  so a little while later, the source and patches will show
>up.  I will assume that everyone knows how to uudecode the patches
>once received.  If you do not, mail me.
>
I have tried to retrieve the ELM patches for version 2.3 (Patches 1-11)
from the archive site without success.  In fact, I have yet to get
a reponse from my "send index" request to DSI.COM (dsinc!elm) using
the procedure outlined in the ELM monthly posting.

I also checked uunet source archives and none of the patches have been
posted there yet.

Since I don't seem to be the only one who is having difficulty getting
the patches for Elm 2.3, could someone PLEASE post patches 1 thru 11?

Thanks in advance!
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edwin@cs.ruu.nl (Edwin Kremer) (02/12/91)

In <388@dprmpt.UUCP> larry@dprmpt.UUCP (Larry) writes:

   | I have tried to retrieve the ELM patches for version 2.3 (Patches 1-11)
   | from the archive site without success.
   | 
   | Since I don't seem to be the only one who is having difficulty getting
   | the patches for Elm 2.3, could someone PLEASE post patches 1 thru 11?

You might want to try our mail-server. People in Europe will most probably
prefer FTPing with our archive-site instead of crossing the Atlantic. Details
on FTP and the Mail-Server below...


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**> This is my ``standard-answer'' to requests for free software that I
**> think our archive-service can fulfil. Usually, I mail this message
**> directly to the person who queried, but since people keep on asking,
**> I've decided to post this message as a follow-up on these kind of
**> queries in the relevant newsgroup(s) every once a month or so...


  We, Computer Science department, Utrecht University, are running an
anonymous FTP server on one of our systems. I should say that we're
NOT archiving all of "comp.sources.*". Instead, we're putting a lot
of effort in trying to keep the archive up-to-date.

 Here are the details on anonymous FTP:
 ======================================

	Site:		archive.cs.ruu.nl  [131.211.80.5]
	Login:		"anonymous" or "ftp"
	Password:	your email address (you@your_domain)
	Usage:		see the ftp(1) manual on your system
	Hot topics:	TeX stuff, Atari-ST software, Elm 2.3, NN 6.4,
			UNIX software, sundry documentation, ...
	Important:	to get a description of what exactly is in the
			archive get the file "pub/ls-lR.Z". Also, in each
			sub-directory there is a file named "INDEX" that
			describes the software in that directory (what
			version, what else you need, who wrote it, etc.).


  Although anonymous FTP is our main goal, we're also running a mail server,
because we *know* how you feel when there's plenty of beautiful software
around that you can't reach. We've been in that situation for a long long
time... All we ask from you is that you at least *try* to keep very big
requests out of the prime-time hours (nights and weekends are fine).

 Okay, now for how to access our mail server:
 ============================================

	1) The mail server can be reached at the address

			mail-server@cs.ruu.nl

	   or the old-fashioned path alternative

			...!uunet!mcsun!hp4nl!ruuinf!mail-server

	2) The mail server understands a couple of commands, all commands
	   must be in the message body. The first thing you might want to
	   do is ask it for help:

			send HELP
	
	3) A complete "ls-lR" listing of the archive is kept in the
	   top-level directory, it will be updated every night. To get
	   it, say:

			send ls-lR.Z
	
	   Note that compressed files will be sent UUEncoded by default; we
	   use the UUE that was posted to the net some time ago.
	   In every subdirectory you'll find a "INDEX" file, describing the
	   contents of that directory. So, e.g. to find out what's in the
	   ELM-2.3 directory, say:

			send ELM-2.3/INDEX
	
	4) Last, assume you want to get the UUE/UUD package mentioned above:

			send UNIX/uudecode.shar
	
	5) If your mailer appends your fancy signature file, you might want
	   to mark the end of the mail-server commands-list by putting an

			end

	   command above the signature file. This will prevent "unknown
	   command" messages from the mail-server program.


  That's all for now. If you encounter problems using the FTP service
and/or the mail-server, feel free to drop me a line (by e-mail, please).


		thanks for your time,
						--[ Edwin ]--
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Telephone: +31-30-534104  | UUCP: ...!uunet!mcsun!hp4nl!ruuinf!edwin
Telefax  : +31-30-513791  | Email: edwin@cs.ruu.nl    [131.211.80.5]

pete@tcom.stc.co.uk (Peter Kendell) (02/13/91)

In <388@dprmpt.UUCP> larry@dprmpt.UUCP (Larry) writes:

>Since I don't seem to be the only one who is having difficulty getting
>the patches for Elm 2.3, could someone PLEASE post patches 1 thru 11?

Please *do not* do this!  Instead, why don't sites that need the elm patches
talk to their neighbours - they should be able to get the stuff they need
from nearby sites by mail or anonymous uucp without burdening the whole net
with this stuff, which has been posted once already.

Or you could wait for 2.4.

Peter

larry@dprmpt.UUCP (Larry) (02/15/91)

In article <388@dprmpt.UUCP> larry@dprmpt.UUCP I write:
>
>Since I don't seem to be the only one who is having difficulty getting
>the patches for Elm 2.3, could someone PLEASE post patches 1 thru 11?
>
To those who responded regarding the inappropriateness of the request
to have the patches reposted, I got the message...

I have received the patches via E-mail.  To all those who helped,
Thanks...
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