kevinf@informix.com (Kevin Franden) (06/14/91)
This may be a FAQ but I can't find the FAQ's for our site... it
seems to have expired for this group; so here goes.
There is a nasty problem in the couple of versions of Elm I have
(2.2.16 and a beta of 2.3 someone scrounged from somewhere);
occasionally, a user will get:
Warning: can't invoke "/usr/ucb/vi" for composition
From which Elm promptly forgets the users (almost always) long mail that
he/she was typing in. I'm sure others have seen this as well.
Observations:
It seems to be memory related - it happens much more frequently
on machines that are paging or swapping than on machines that
are not.
It's very irritating, causing me to slink around the building
incognito hoping noone will recognise me and attempt to do
harmful things to my person.
It nearly always happens on long messages (making it more irritating).
Is this fixed? Can it be fixed? Will Magic Johnson retire? How can I
get the "latest and greatest" of ELm? What IS the latest and greatest of
Elm?
Thanks in advance!
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Kevin Franden UUCP: {pyramid|uunet}!infmx!kevinf
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There are Lies, Damn lies, Statistics, Benchmarks, and Delivery datesmarkw@gvlf8-e.gvl.unisys.com (Mark H. Weber) (06/14/91)
In article <kevinf.676849166@tofu> kevinf@informix.com (Kevin Franden) writes: > >There is a nasty problem in the couple of versions of Elm I have >(2.2.16 and a beta of 2.3 someone scrounged from somewhere); >occasionally, a user will get: > > Warning: can't invoke "/usr/ucb/vi" for composition > ... > >Is this fixed? Can it be fixed? Will Magic Johnson retire? How can I >get the "latest and greatest" of ELm? What IS the latest and greatest of >Elm? > Yes, this is fixed in the latest version of ELM, which is 2.3 PL11. The problem is that vi is returning an non-zero result, which it may do for almost any reason, perhaps for something as simple as trying to position the cusor above the first line of text! As for how to get it, here's the info from the latest monthly posting: ------------------------------%< cut here >%----------------------------- >From: syd@dsinc.DSI.COM (Syd Weinstein) Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm Subject: Elm monthly posting for May/June 1991 Keywords: elm monthly posting Message-ID: <1991May21.183900.15151@DSI.COM> Date: 21 May 91 18:39:00 GMT Expires: Mon, 1 Jul 1991 00:00:00 GMT Sender: syd@DSI.COM (Syd Weinstein) Organization: Datacomp Systems, Inc., Huntingdon Valley, PA 19006 Lines: 306 This is the monthly Elm Posting from the Elm Development Group and your Elm Coordinator. Please send all questions and comments about this posting or Elm itself to elm@dsi.com (dsinc!elm). This posting generated: Tue May 21 14:34:36 EDT 1991 Current release version: Elm 2.3 PL11 This version was released at patch level 0. comp.sources.unix Posting-number: Volume 22, Issues 60-85 Archive-name: elm2.3/part01 thru elm2.3/part26 Patches are posted to comp.sources.bugs and comp.mail.elm After they are stable, patches are sent to comp.sources.unix Patches 1 through 11 have been sent to comp.sources.unix. Patches 1 through 11 are Volume 24 Issues 25-35. Archive-name: elm2.3patches/part01 thru elm2.3patches/part11 Patches are available from the archive server at DSI.COM: send mail to archive-server@DSI.COM send elm index Note: the archive server will not respond to users names root, daemon, postmaster or mailer-daemon. Please use your own login when requesting information from the archive server. ... The following sites have agreed to make Elm available via anonymous ftp. Site Contact mthvax.cs.miami.edu a.e.mossberg, aem@mthvax.cs.miami.edu (129.171.32.5) wuarchive.wustl.edu David J. Camp, david@wubios.WUstl.EDU (128.252.135.4) In Europe: archive.cs.ruu.nl Edwin Kremer, edwin@cs.ruu.nl (131.211.80.5) In the UK: uk.ac.soton.ecs T.Chown@ecs.soton.ac.uk (bitnet) T.Chown@uk.ac.soton.ecs (JANET) In Australia: ftp.adelaide.edu.au Mark Prior, mrp@itd.adelaide.edu.au (129.127.40.3) ... The Elm(tm) Mail System (C) Copyright 1986, 1987, by Dave Taylor (C) Copyright 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, USENET Community Trust An Overview of the Elm Mail System ---------------------------------- 1. What is Elm? In the lingo of the mail guru, Elm is a "User Agent" system, it's designed to run with "sendmail" or "/bin/rmail" (according to what's on your system) and is a full replacement of programs like "/bin/mail" and "mailx". The system is more than just a single program, however, and includes programs like "frm" to list a 'table of contents' of your mail, "printmail" to quickly paginate mail files (to allow 'clean' printouts), and "autoreply", a systemwide daemon that can autoanswer mail for people while they're on vacation without having multiple copies spawned on the system. 2. What's New about Elm? The most significant difference between Elm and earlier mail systems is that Elm is screen-oriented. Upon further use, however, users will find that Elm is also quite a bit easier to use, and quite a bit more "intelligent" about sending mail and so on. 3. What systems does it work on? Elm was originally written on HP-UX, HP's proprietary version of AT&T System V, with a little BSD thrown in. Since then, it has been ported to AT&T, Berkeley, Sun, UTS, Pyramid and Xenix and should run on all these systems without any modifications. 4. Does it obey existing mail standards? Yes! That's another of the basic reasons the program was originally written! To ensure that the date field, the "From:" line and so on were all added in the correct format. The program is 100% correct according to the RFC-822 electronic mail header protocol guide. -- ===================================================================== Sydney S. Weinstein, CDP, CCP Elm Coordinator Datacomp Systems, Inc. Voice: (215) 947-9900 syd@DSI.COM or dsinc!syd FAX: (215) 938-0235 ------------------------------%< cut here >%----------------------------- -- Mark H. Weber | Internet: markw@GVL.Unisys.COM Unisys - Great Valley Labs | UUCP: ...!uunet!cbmvax!gvlv2!markw Paoli, PA USA (215) 648-7111 |
barb@library.calpoly.edu (Barbara Nash) (06/15/91)
kevinf@informix.com (Kevin Franden) elucidates: > >There is a nasty problem in the couple of versions of Elm I have >(2.2.16 and a beta of 2.3 someone scrounged from somewhere); >occasionally, a user will get: > > Warning: can't invoke "/usr/ucb/vi" for composition > >From which Elm promptly forgets the users (almost always) long mail that >he/she was typing in. I'm sure others have seen this as well. We had a similar problem here, but only with certian users' accounts. Unfortunately, I can't give you a solution, since the problem went away when we installed 2.3.11. >Is this fixed? Can it be fixed? Will Magic Johnson retire? How can I >get the "latest and greatest" of ELm? What IS the latest and greatest of >Elm? Dunno, yes (of course! =-) ), yes, ask elm@dsinc, 2.3.11 as far as I know. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Barbara Nash, Asst. System Administator barb@library.calpoly.edu Kennedy Library Computer Systems Support bnash@polyslo.calpoly.edu #include <std.disclaimer> polyslo!holodec!barb