jon@mitisft.Convergent.COM (Jon Bork) (09/16/89)
Does someone out there know of a simple editor that we could use with
Elm to ease the teaching of Elm to occasional users who are not UNIX
literate? All it needs to do is type, insert, delete. Nice to have
is auto-return on end of line and paragraph justification on deletion.
Any ideas???
Regards,
Jon Bork
Unisys Network Computing Group (408)-435-3679
jon@Convergent.COM -or- {pyramid, sri-unix, pacbell}!ctnews!jon
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Jon Bork
Unisys Network Computing Group (408)-435-3679
jon@Convergent.COM -or- {pyramid, sri-unix, pacbell}!ctnews!jonsfreed@tesla.unm.edu (Steve Freed) (09/16/89)
jon@mitisft.Convergent.COM (Jon Bork) writes: >Does someone out there know of a simple editor that we could use with >Elm to ease the teaching of Elm to occasional users who are not UNIX >literate? All it needs to do is type, insert, delete. Just use the builtin editor. Looks about like the Berkeley mail editor, and that is what I have my occasional users use. The only thing they complain about is that it would be nice if you could use arrow keys to move around in the text, but that maks it a much more complicated editor. -- Steve. sfreed@ariel.unm.edu
rob@PacBell.COM (Rob Bernardo) (09/17/89)
jon@mitisft.Convergent.COM (Jon Bork) writes: +Does someone out there know of a simple editor that we could use with +Elm to ease the teaching of Elm to occasional users who are not UNIX +literate? All it needs to do is type, insert, delete. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ sfreed@tesla.unm.edu (Steve Freed) writes: +Just use the builtin editor. The builtin editor should have been called an "appender". You can type, but you can't insert or delete. -- Rob Bernardo ...![backbone]!pacbell!pbhyf!rob -or- rob@pbhyf.PacBell.COM Product engineer, UNIX/C Reusable Code Library Editor, "Go `C' UNIX" Office: (415) 823-2417 Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, California Residence: (415) 827-4301 R BAR JB, Concord, California
jbayer@ispi.UUCP (Jonathan Bayer) (09/17/89)
jon@mitisft.Convergent.COM (Jon Bork) writes: >Does someone out there know of a simple editor that we could use with >Elm to ease the teaching of Elm to occasional users who are not UNIX >literate? All it needs to do is type, insert, delete. Nice to have >is auto-return on end of line and paragraph justification on deletion. You could use uEMACS, and just ignore all the extra stuff. It is small and works very well. It would also give you the extra power if you want/need it (for example, looking up another file and inserting text into the current message) JB -- Jonathan Bayer Intelligent Software Products, Inc. (201) 245-5922 500 Oakwood Ave. jbayer@ispi.COM Roselle Park, NJ 07204
rob@lafayet.Lafayette.LA.US (Rob Freyder) (08/07/90)
I am looking for a simple editor for use with elm... vi is too difficult for my novice users and the builtin doesnt provide the capabilities I would like... Full screen with arrow keys and NO insert mode... Please email and let me know what some of you are using. Thanks. Rob. -- Rob Freyder Core Laboratories a division of ____ ____ ____ Western Atlas International a \ \ / /\ / /\ Litton/Dresser Company \ \/ / \ / / \ (318) 235-9431 \ / / \ / /\ \ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= \/___/ \/___/ \___\ ...!uunet!rouge!lafayet!rob
ellozy@farber.harvard.edu (Mohamed Ellozy) (06/24/91)
This must be a FAQ, but I do not recollect reading answers to it. I have a community of users who dial in to my main computer basically to send/read electronic mail. They are rarely computer sophisticated, and being offsite (often out of state) makes support very difficult. We want to run elm, with an editor a bit more capable than the non-editor that emulates /usr/ucb/mail. We need the capability to move around, preferably with arrow keys, and to insert/delete/change. We feel that vi is totally unsuitable because of the command mode/insertion mode dichotomy. We also have problems with emacs key bindings, which make it unsuitable for our target audiance. Any help will be much appreciated. Mohamed
cliffb@cjbsys.bdb.com (cliff bedore) (06/26/91)
In article <1991Jun24.120934.8813@Think.COM> ellozy@farber.harvard.edu (Mohamed Ellozy) writes: >This must be a FAQ, but I do not recollect reading answers to it. > >I have a community of users who dial in to my main computer basically >to send/read electronic mail. They are rarely computer sophisticated, >and being offsite (often out of state) makes support very difficult. > >We want to run elm, with an editor a bit more capable than the >non-editor that emulates /usr/ucb/mail. We need the capability to >move around, preferably with arrow keys, and to insert/delete/change. > >We feel that vi is totally unsuitable because of the command mode/insertion >mode dichotomy. We also have problems with emacs key bindings, which make it >unsuitable for our target audiance. > >Any help will be much appreciated. > >Mohamed There has been a lot of talk lately about editors for elm and I thought I'd throw in my $.03(inflation). We got gnome after some discussion on this forum and are very pleased with it. I got it from uunet and have it running under XENIX and ULTRIX and use it a lot. Our "unsophisticated" users like it because all they really need to make it work is to remember ^Z to save the file and use the arrow keys. (It obviously does a lot more and has built-in help but thats all they need to know to use it. Cliff