[comp.org.fidonet] FidoNET Newsletter, Volume 5, # 23

pozar@hoptoad.uucp (Tim Pozar) (06/06/88)

     Volume 5, Number 23                                   6 June 1988
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     Editor in Chief                                       Dale Lovell
     Editor Emeritus:                                   Thom Henderson
     Chief Procrastinator Emeritus:                       Tom Jennings
     Contributing Editors:                                   Al Arango
     
     FidoNews  is  published  weekly  by  the  International   FidoNet
     Association  as  its  official newsletter.  You are encouraged to
     submit articles for publication in FidoNews.  Article  submission
     standards  are contained in the file ARTSPEC.DOC,  available from
     node 1:1/1.
     
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     The  contents  of  the  articles  contained  here  are  not   our
     responsibility,   nor   do   we   necessarily  agree  with  them.
     Everything here is  subject  to  debate.  We  publish  EVERYTHING
     received.



                             Table of Contents

     1. ARTICLES  .................................................  1
        FidoNet Vendors Take Note  ................................  1
        FidoCon 89 -- Where's It Gonna Be?  .......................  2
        SEGUARO DOWN  .............................................  5
        No More New Structures, Please  ...........................  6
        An urgent warning to those who send any type of Arcmail  ..  8
        Back to the Bush!  ........................................ 10
     2. COLUMNS  .................................................. 17
        Stepping Out Into The World  .............................. 17
        Top Downloads 5/21/88 - 5/27/88  .......................... 18
     3. NOTICES  .................................................. 20
        The Interrupt Stack  ...................................... 20
        Latest Software Versions  ................................. 20
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                                 ARTICLES
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     Tim Sullivan
     108/62

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                    IF YOU SELL TO THE FIDONET COMMUNITY
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     It's time to register for "FidoCon '88" the International FidoNet
     Community's Annual conference and telecommunications exhibition.
     It will be held August 24th thru August 28th at the Drawbridge
     Inn & Convention Center - close to the Greater Cincinnati
     International Airport.

     This is your opportunity to market to a select group of computer
     users and buyers.  Please note that we will be drawing from an
     international community of over 3000 telecommunications
     enthusiasts.  In addition to the conference attendees, we will be
     attracting local interest through multi-media advertising aimed
     at the business buyer.  Already we have attendance commitments
     from vendors such as AT&T, US Robotics, DAK Industries, etc.

     In order to get a broad range of exhibitors at this show, we urge
     you to make an early commitment.  Booth space is limited and will
     be assigned on a first come, first serve basis.  We have already
     contacted by mail major modem, computer, and peripheral
     manufacturers as well as telecommunication service and software
     suppliers.

     If you have any questions about FidoCon '88 or would like the
     complete vendor information packet - contact any of the board
     members listed -


     Tim Sullivan (108/62)            Rick Ashworth (108/90)
     Voice  (513) 421-1400            Voice  (513) 727-1279


     Steve Sullivan (108/801)         Jesse Armontrout (108/10)
     Voice  (513) 381-6297            Voice  (513) 385-8476



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                     FIDOCON 89 -- WHERE'S IT GONNA BE?

     The Membership Services Committee, under the chairmanship of
     Phil Ardussi, has been charged with recommending a site to hold
     FidoCon in August 1989.

     Would you like to host the next FidoCon in your city?  Here is
     your chance.  Send a proposal to the FidoCon Site Selection
     subcommittee to be considered for the honor of hosting FidoCon
     89.

     What do you need to do to host FidoCon in your city?  Planning
     an international conference requires a great deal of work on the
     part of the hosts.  A site must be selected with adequate
     meeting space, accessibility, reasonable price and 1001 other
     details.  To give you an idea of what needs to be done and to
     give the Site Selection Subcommittee some information about your
     city, we need to have the following questionnaire filled out:

     LOCATION:

          1.   What is the mileage from the airport to the host hotel?

          2.   Is shuttle service furnished by the hotel available to
               and from the hotel and airport?

          3.   Are there direct (no connections) flights from the top
               ten largest metropolitan areas to your airport?

     HOTEL FACILITIES:

          1.   Is there a large (150 person) conference room which
               will be available throughout the conference?

          2.   Are there at least three smaller conference rooms which
               will be available for meetings during the conference?

          3.   Will there be display space for vendors?

          4.   Will there be a small private conference room available
               for the host and other committees?

          5.   Will  the hotel guarantee room rate,  not to exceed $80
               for double occupancy?

          6.   Will the host committee prepare a list including price
               ranges and bill of fare for all hotel restaurants in
               advance of the conference?

          7.   Will the hotel provide early committment on prices of
               banquets, receptions, coffee break service, and any
               other food and beverage service to the conference
               sessions?

          8.   Will the host committee be able to obtain corporate
               sponsors to help defray conference expenses?  Who are
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               they?

          9.   Does the hotel have handicap facilities?

         10.   Is the hotel or convention center willing to provide
               help in the planning of the conference?

     LOCAL SUPPORT:

          1.   There must be an active committee consisting of at
               least five members in the host city at least nine
               months before the conference.  Members of this
               committee should be prepared to spend at least two
               hours per week in the early planning stages and at
               least 8-10 hours per week just before the conference.
               The local chair should work closely with the FidoCon
               subcommittee chair by Net Mail, US Snail, and voice.
               Please furnish the name of the host committee and the
               name and address of the host chairperson.

          2.   Sponsorship of the conference by a local user group
               would be a plus.  Please furnish the name of the
               sponsoring group, if any.

          3.   Will a list of nearby restaurants (all price ranges --
               including fast food) and local entertainment be
               prepared by the local committee?

          4.   Will maps of the area would be provided to attendees?

          5.   What activities for family members should will be
               planned by the local committee?

          6.   Will there be a software swap area set up with
               computers for people to trade disks?  Will any of them
               be equipped with a printer and/or modem? Will disk
               sales (at cost) be included?

          7.   Will there be conference souvenirs, including but not
               limited to T-shirts and hats, available throughout the
               conference?

          8.   Will a special rate on car rentals be available to
               FidoCon attendees?

     OTHER:

          1.   What other events would you suggest for attendees?

          2.   What are the features of your city that make it
               particularly desirable for hosting FidoCon?

     GENERAL COMMENTS: (To be filled in by the prospective hosts)

     Please give a lot of thought to the amount of time and money that
     will be involved in hosting FidoCon.  Then, write up your
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     proposal and send it to us.  We will evaluate all proposals and
     make recommendations to the IFNA Board of Directors.

     Proposals can be sent by NetMail to 128/13, or by US Snail to:
          Jim Cannell
          4350 Burton Way #238
          Colorado Springs, Colorado
          80918

     If you want to include any printed promotional materials from the
     hotel or other facility, forward five copies to the above
     address.

     If you have any questions or problems, please send me NetMail or
     give me a voice call at 303-531-9043.

     If there is anyone who has experience in convention planning
     that is not connected with one of the prospective host cities
     who wants to help with planning, you are welcome to join the
     Membership Services Site Selection Subcommittee.  Send a NetMail
     note to Phil Ardussi at 157/1.

     PROPOSALS MUST BE RECEIVED BY JULY 15.
     ======================================

     Jim Cannell
     FidoCon Site Selection Subcommittee Chairperson
     128/13

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     Claude Witherspoon
     Fido 100/525

                            SEGUARO DOWN!

     I will be taking a vacation from 13  June  1988  through  15
     July 1988 somewhere in the great state of Texas. I live in a
     neighborhood which has a multitude of little vandals running
     amok  therefore,  I  must  lock  my system in some cold dark
     storage facility while I'm gone.

     I also need to be listed as DOWN on the nodelist during this
     time  frame.  Please  bear  with  the inconveniance but if I
     don't take a vacation... you know the rest of the story.

     There was a previous article that I submitted  for  FidoNews
     that  addressed  the  KIDS  echo  conference  and how it got
     started and where it's going. I feel that this  article  may
     generate  a  lot of traffic directed toward my system. If it
     seems I am not answering your  messages,  the  above  should
     explain why. I will however be knee deep  in  messages  that
     will  need  to  be  answered when I return and get my system
     running again. That day should be Sunday, 17  JULY  1988.  I
     will  eventually  get  around  to  replying  to  all  of the
     messages.

     There will be more articles submitted in both  the  KidsNews
     and  FidoNews  which  will  keep  everyone up to date on the
     changes, advancements, etc... with the kids echo.  Again,  I
     wish  to  thank  those  of  you  who have taken part in this
     worth while cause for our children. Only in America can this
     happen. Believe me, I have seen the way people live in other
     countries first hand. Eighteen years in  the  military  lets
     you see alot and makes you thankful for what you have.

     Claude Witherspoon
     Seguaro BBS 100/525
     (618) 656-5447
     Edwardsville, Illinois


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     J. Brad Hicks                                         24 May 1988
     Sysop WeirdBase, 1:100/523.0              Director-at-Large, IFNA


                    You Can Make a Difference, But ...

                      NO MORE NEW STRUCTURES, PLEASE


     Lately,  we've seen something that seems pretty weird to me, and
     I run a BBS that caters to Dr. Thompson calls "bad craziness."

     This week's FidoNews contains  yet another proposal for a struc-
     ture for a yet another new governing body for the  FidoNet.    I
     haven't been keeping track,  but now there can't be less than  a
     dozen of them kicking around, and they keep on coming.

     Perhaps  the  word  has  reached you by now  that  Robert  Anson
     Heinlein is dead.  Will you read a brief quote,  relevant to the
     subject at hand, from the dean of science fiction as we know it?

            "Democracy can't work.  Mathematicians, peasants, and
         animals,  that's all there is--so democracy,  a   theory
         based on the assumption that mathematicians and peasants
         are equal,  can never work.  Wisdom is not additive; its
         maximum is that of the wisest man in a given group.

            "But  a democratic =form=  of government is okay,  as
         long  as it doesn't work.   Any social organization does
         well  enough if it isn't rigid.   The framework  doesn't
         matter  as  long as there is enough looseness to  permit
         that one man in a multitude to display his genius.  Most
         so-called   social   scientists  seem  to   think   that
         organization  is  everything.   It is  almost  nothing--
         except when it is a straightjacket.  It is the incidence
         of heroes that counts, not the pattern of zeros."

                       Robert Heinlein, _Glory Road_, pp. 261-262

     Why  do so many of you seem to think that if you can just tinker
     with the structure of IFNA,  or something like it,  you can save
     FidoNet?   The =structure= is mostly irrelevant.   We copied one
     that had worked--the one used by the Amateur Radio Relay League.
     We  could  have used any--or almost none.   No matter  what  the
     offices  are,   or how the elections are held,  only  one  thing
     matters:  the people who hold those offices.

     IFNA  exists.    There's a structure in place that can  do  just
     about anything that we'd ever want to do with the FidoNet,  from
     update and rationalize the technical specifications to lobby  on
     our own behalf.  It's a very flexible structure.  It's usable as
     it  is,   so why kill another two years starting all  over  with
     another structure?

     Now,  I'm not Pollyanna.  I  know too bloody well that there are
     big problems with the way things are being done.   I think money
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     has  been spent unwisely and I think that responsibilities  have
     been neglected and/or mismanaged.

     But  any structure would have  had those same problems,  if  the
     same people were elected.

     Please,   let's not have any more organizational  proposals  for
     FidoNet.  Instead, let's see a lot of people pay their dues, and
     then vote and/or run for office.    Listen,  the work isn't ter-
     ribly  difficult--being a director for IFNA takes  only  a  tiny
     fraction  of the time that the rest of my BBS-related activities
     consume.  And I've tried to make a difference, and to bring some
     sense to the Board.   If more of you who are complaining now had
     been there to back me up, things would have happened very,  very
     differently.

     Make a difference.  Join IFNA.  And =VOTE=.

     ________________________________________________________________

     The  opinions stated above are those of one person,  namely  me.
     They  do not necessarily represent the opinions of anybody  else
     (though I can always hope),  and they certainly do NOT represent
     the  opinions  of  my  fellow board members or of  IFNA  in  any
     official way.   Judge them entirely on the sense that they make,
     and don't even dream of holding anyone else responsible for what
     I say or write.  And don't censor me:  refute me instead.
                                                     -- J. Brad Hicks


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        Do you use Ommm to pack mail into Arcmail?
        Do you use Confmail to pack Arcmail?
        Do you use ARCmail to make Arcmail?

     Please, if you do, carefully read this article.  There are many
     sysops, some new, some old who are unintentionally abusing
     compressed mail archives (aka Arcmail).

     Just because your system and hundreds of your friends are set
     up to accept arcmail DOES NOT mean that everyone else is. If
     you automatically arcmail ALL outgoing mail, you should CEASE
     immediately.  You should only send arcmail to systems that
     are ready to accept it, want it and are able to process it.

     Just because you run Ommm to pack all messages into ARCmail
     packets does not mean that other systems have the capability to
     un-pack arcmail created in that form.

     Just because you run Confmail to pack your Arcmail does not mean
     that other systems have the capability to un-pack confmail
     generated arcmail.

     If you run Arcmail 1.1 to pack arcmail, that dosen't mean that
     all systems are able to unpack arcmail in that form.

     Unless a system has SPECIFICALLY stated to you that they want
     you to send them arcmail, you should NOT assume that they are
     able to un-pack arcmail.  Furthermore, they may not be able to
     or willing to change their operations just to handle the
     particular version of Arcmail that you are sending.  Check with
     any systems via normal net-mail that you wish to send arcmail to
     to confirm the method they can accept and be quite willing to add
     a new program in order to be able to send arcmail.

     An example:  Board 107/2232 (hopefully fictional board) sends an
     ommm generated arcmail package to me at 2:00am.  At my pre-mail
     event my system looks for arcmail (1.1) from specific systems
     that I am expecting arcmail from.  Arcmail does not expect to
     see a package from 107/2232 so it ignores it, sometimes killing
     it depending on the set-up. (This is true for other methods as
     well).  When mail is checked the next morning, there is nothing
     from 107/2232 and I have no reason to look for mail from that
     board.  The message(s) are lost forever.

     Again.  Do not automatically assume that all systems are capable
     of or willing to accept arcmail packages.  You should only send
     arcmail packages to those systems that you have talked to via
     normal net-mail in the past.  While one method of arcmail can
     un-pack arcmail of another method, if a system is not expecting
     arcmail from a specific system, it may indeed never try to un-pack
     the arcmail.  You should also agree on a specific method in which
     the arcmail will be packed.  There is no real reason why you
     should send one net-mail message to a board via arcmail of any
     form.  The transfer time savings is either non-existent or is
     trivial and besides, if the other system isn't expecting arcmail,
     your message may end up never being read.
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     Sysops, thank you for taking the time to see if your system is
     automatically sending everything as arcmail.  Users, please
     alert your sysop to this very crucial problem.  Thank you.

     jg

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                               BACK TO THE BUSH!
     by Todd Looney, Sysop
     Vietnam Veterans' Valhalla
     143/27, San Jose, CA.

     The  Vietnam Veterans' Valhalla in San Jose, California has  been
     working  like  the dickens to get a trip for  interested  parties
     back  to Vietnam.  Everything has been working out great so  far.
     You don't necessarily have to be a Vietnam veteran to go with us,
     everyone  i  invited!  We expect to have a group of  about  fifty
     people.   If we get more than thirty, the cost factor  as  listed
     below  will decline dramatically so start thinking about it  now.
     We  will not be taking deposits for another couple of months  yet
     so  there is still time.  We are tenatively planning to leave  in
     mid-January.

     The  initial itinerary is in and things  are  starting  to
     really  look  up  for  the "Back to the Bush"  trip  to  back  to
     Vietnam.

     All the amenities are includes as follows:

                            Round trip air fare
                          All hotels and lodging
                           Three meals per day
                  All transportation (Rail/Bus/Boat/Plane)
                  Daily sightseeing tours of your choice
     (there are many tours available in every city, or you are free
                         to go off on your own!)
       Cultural performances sponsored by the Vietnamese government
                      Vietnamese and Cambodian visas
           (yes, you can take a sightseeing tour into Cambodia!)
        English-speaking tour guides and interpreters in every city


     All  you  have  to  furnish  is  your  body,  your  international
     passport, and have your inoculations up to date (ouch!).

     Here's what it looks like so far:

     Day 1     Depart San Francisco via Japan Airlines

     Day 2     Arrive Hong Kong
               (Overnight stay because we will arrive too late to
               depart for SE Asia that evening.  There will be a
               breakfast in Hong Kong before we leave)

     Day 3     Depart Hong Kong for Bangkok, Thailand
               (We will need to stay two nights in Bangkok to get
               all of our visas issued so you will have plenty of
               time for a little R&R!)

     Day 5     Depart Bangkok, Thailand for Hanoi, Vietnam
               (We will stay two days in Hanoi)

     Day 7     Depart Hanoi for Hue City
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               (We will stay two days in Hue City)

     Day 9     Depart Hue City for Da Nang
               (We will stay two days in Da Nang)

     Day 11    Depart Da Nag for Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon)
               (We will stay two days in Ho Chi Minh City)

     Day 13    Depart Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam for Bangkok, Thailand
               (We must stay overnight in Bangkok again to "check out")

     Day 14    Depart Bangkok, Thailand for Hong Kong and
               San Francisco, California, USA!

     That's what I have so far!  I will keep everyone apprised of  any
     changes as they become available.  Looks like this whole trip  is
     going to cost us approximately $2,000.00 each.  I am making every
     attempt to get this price cut down.  After the first 15 seats are
     sold, the price will begin dropping so start saving now,  sign ups
     will  begin in a couple months after everything is finalized.   A
     refundable  deposit  will  be  required  for  reservations.   All
     deposits are refundable, but certain restrictions will apply.

     There's  more  than  six months to get ready for  this  so  start
     saving now!  Don't put it off.  This is a trip of a lifetime!  To
     do this by yourself would bankrupt you so take advantage of  this
     group discount!

     For further information contact"

     Todd Looney
     28 Cecil Avenue, Suite 179
     San Jose, California 95128

     or E-Mail to 143/27 24 hours a day!

     You  can also keep in contact with what is going on in the  world
     of Vietnam veterans, their friends and family by participating in
     the  International Vietnam Veterans' EchoConference. If  you  are
     not sure where the local node in your area is, I have listed them
     all below.  We look forward to having you aboard, and again, this
     is not just for veterans, *anyone* can participate!

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           International Vietnam Veterans EchoConference Nodes
     =================================================================
             Max.
     Node #  Baud  BBS Name         Phone Number   City/State/Country
     =================================================================

     632/350 1200  Yarra Valley BBS  61-3-848-331 Melbourne Australia

     114/113 2400  Corwin's Keep  1-602-894-1470  Tempe AZ

     153/123 9600  DAETECH  1-604-420-2641  Burnaby BC

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     153/133 2400  Hot Line Data Network  1-604-533-0421  Langley BC

     153/135 2400  DAETECH 2  1-604-420-9485  Burnaby BC

     153/501 2400  Valley Hub  1-604-850-0021  Clearbrook BC

     220/20  2400  Old Frog's Almanac  1-604-758-3072  Nanaimo BC

     10/215  2400  Silver BBS  1-619-226-4502  San Diego CA

     103/501 2400 Mount Silverthorn  1-714-544-3369  Tustin CA

     103/507 9600 Philosopher's Log  1-714-535-1258  Anaheim CA

     125/12  2400 The Grape Vine  1-707-546-4938  Santa Rosa CA

     125/7   2400 Survival Forum  1-707-545-0746  Santa Rosa CA

     125/78  2400 Living Sober BBS  1-415-342-2859  San Mateo CA

     143/22  2400 P-CAD's Board  1-408-279-4908  San Jose CA

     143/27  2400 Vietnam Veterans Valhalla 1-408-293-7894 San Jose CA

     143/86  2400 Cat's Tail BBS/S.T.O.P. 1-415-349-8245 San Mateo CA

     161/1   9600 Nerd's Nook  1-415-672-2504  Concord CA

     161/34  9600 Now and Zen OPUS  1-916-962-1952  Fair Oaks CA

     161/39  2400 Nightline  1-916-362-1755  Mather AFB CA

     161/5   9600 River City II OPUS  1-916-646-9678  Sacramento CA

     161/509 2400 Enterprize  1-415-758-1650  Pinole CA

     161/56  2400 Nat'l Family Forum  1-415-651-4147  Freemont CA

     161/66  2400 Generic BBS  1-916-722-3659  Citrus Heights CA

     161/7   2400 Mover Mouse BBS  1-415-883-1644  Fremont CA

     161/943 9600 Eagle's Nest  1-916-334-2822  Sacramento CA

     200/100 2400 The Board Room  1-213-498-6425  Belmont Shores CA

     200/200 1200 CSULB  1-213-494-8737  Long Beach CA

     202/401 2400 jabberWOCky  1-619-743-9935  Escondido CA

     104/28  2400 Pinecliff BBS  1-303-444-7073  Boulder CO

     104/51  2400 P2 B2  1-303-329-3337  South Denver CO

     104/739 2400 The Phoenix  1-303-841-9570  Parker CO

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     141/250 9600 Wilton Woods  1-203=762-8481  Wilton CT

     135/35  1200 The Way Out BBS  1-305-665-3283  Miami FL

     363/10  1200 Midas Touch  1-305-648-1133  Orlando FL

     363/9   1200 Wit's End  1-305-894-0807  Orlando FL

     366/38  9600 Jolly Green Giant  1-904-651-3875  Shalimar FL

     18/43   9600 Athens Echo  1-404-546-7857  Athens GA

     370/10  2400 OnLine OPUS  1-404-548-0726  Athens GA

     370/5   9600 Athens Forum  1-404-546-7857  Athens GA

     12/1    2400 Aura Net  1-808-533-0190  Honolulu HI

     11/109  2400 Peoria OPUS Net  1-309-691-5416  Peoria IL

     115/20  2400 North Shore BBS  1-312-491-2611  Evanston IL

     115/429 2400 Chicago Business  1-312-491-2611  Evanston IL

     115/529 2400 Elk Grove Repeater  1-312-529-1586  Elk Grv Vlg IL

     115/761 2400 ICS/TRIX 1 OPUS  1-312-761-7887  Chicago IL

     11/202  1200 The SouthSide BBS  1-317-882-9330  Indianapolis IN

     227/1   9600 Michiana TechLine  1-219-258-0286  Mishawaka IN

     108/50  2400 The ZOO BBS  1-606-283-2040  Independence KY

     108/90  2400 DATANET Info System  1-606-727-3638  Erlanger KY

     321/109 9600 Pioneer Valley PCUG-1  1-413-256-1037  Amherst MA

     321/201 2400 Mountain Top  1-413-684-2886  Dalton MA

     321/202 9600 Jones' Nose  1-413-528-5663  Gt Barrington MA

     321/203 2400 VETLink #1  1-413-443-6313  Pittsfield MA

     109/648 2400 Falcon's Rock  1-301-345-7459  College Park MD

     109/717 1200 The Tin Badge BBS  1-301-589-2016  Silver Spring MD

     109/722 1200 Ronnie's Roadies BBS  1-301-736-0135  Camp Sprngs MD

     13/29   9600 Berkshire Board  1-301-574-1984  Essex MD

     13/30   9600 The Futurists BBS  1-301-529-0716  Perry Hall MD

     13/33   9600 Avi-Technic  1-301-252-0717  Lutherville MD

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     261/628 2400 Liberty Hall  1-301-833-8933  Reisterstown MD

     261/628.1 2400 Systemhouse Link  1-301-833-8933  Reisterstown MD

     1/214   2400 Region 14 Echo Coor  1-612-377-3398  Minneapolis MN

     1/314   2400 Software Dist  1-612-377-3469  Minneapolis MN

     282/1   9600 Midwest Echo Star  1-612-377-3469  Minneapolis MN

     151/100 9600 NC Central  1-919-851-8460  Raleigh NC

     151/1000 2400 REDCON  1-919-859-3353  Raleigh NC

     151/20  2400 Metro Link  1-704-541-8626  Charlotte NC

     151/60  2400 VMC-BBS  1-919-945-4850  Lewisville NC

     143/99  2400 Friend's BBS  1-402-896-2669  Omaha NE

     132/101 2400 BBS Source Archive  1-603-888-8179  Nashua NH

     150/803 2400 Jersey Vertex  1-609-869-0139  Moorestown NJ

     15/4    2400 NASW New Mexico  1-505-646-2868  Las Cruces NM

     107/105 2400 NY Transfer  1-718-442-1056  Staten Island NY

     108/105 2400 Global Time Systems  1-606-341-7910  Cincinnati OH

     110/20  2400 EDS Data  1-513-455-2431  Dayton OH

     157/1   2400 Auer Register  1-216-883-0578  Cleveland OH

     147/14  9600 Dark Star TBBS  1-405-691-0863  Oklahoma City OK

     385/4   2400 Info-Net  1-405-357-6181  Lawton OK

     385/6   2400 Bink's Barn  1-405-357-2473  Lawton OK

     11/700  9600 FCAU IBM Net  1-416-427-0682  Toronto ON

     221/156 9600 Waterloo CBCS PUBLIC  1-519-746-5020  Waterloo ON

     221/157 9600 Waterloo CBCS Echomail  Unpublished  Waterloo ON

     105/16  2400 Net 105 EchoMail Hub  1-503-761-3003  Portland OR

     105/61  2400 Shotgun OPUS  1-503-760-4521  Portland OR

     157/506 2400 Beacon Hill OPUS  1-412-962-9514  Transfer PA

     18/6    2400 The Burnout Board  1-901-353-4563  Memphis TN

     362/1   2400 The Mines of Moria  1-615-344-9601  Chattanooga TN

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     362/501 2400 Coconut Telegraph  1-615-698-4858  Chattanooga TN

     106/108 9600 Stormy Weather I  1-713-644-4345  Houston TX

     106/111 2400 Shutterbug's OPUS  1-713-880-4329  Houston TX

     106/113 2400 The Opus Network  1-713-780-4153  Houston TX

     106/114 2400 The Fireside  1-713-496-6319  Houston TX

     106/132 2400 Fast BBS OPUS  1-713-392-0093  Katy TX

     106/357 2400 TMBBS  1-713-497-5433  Houston TX

     106/666 2400 Anything Goes OPUS  1-713-997-2624  Houston TX

     124/106 9600 CHAI Way II  1-214-250-3323  Dallas TX

     124/110 9600 Flying Dutchman  1-214-642-3436  Dallas TX

     124/117 2400 NCC-1701 Node 1  1-214-240-8821  Dallas TX

     124/117 2400 NCC-1701  1-214-240-8821  Dallas TX

     124/14  2400 Chrysalis  1-214-985-9054  Dallas TX

     124/200 2400 Dallas Outbound  1-214-437-4075  Dallas TX

     124/201 2400 Hardweird  1-204-931-2987  Dallas TX

     124/214 2400 *CHRYSALIS*  1-214-985-9054  Dallas TX

     130/5   2400 CUSSNET UTA  1-817-273-3966  Arlington TX

     136/200 2400 The Chai Way II  1-214-358-3738  Austin TX

     381/201 2400 Pro Link  1-915-944-2952  San Angelo TX

     382/1   2400 Crystal Palace  1-512-339-8037  Lake Travis TX

     382/14  9600 Corona Del Mar  1-512-729-7026  Rockport TX

     109/604 2400 ShanErin  1-703-941-8291  Alexandria VA

     109/639 2400 The RENEX BBS  1-703-494-8331  Woodbridge VA

     1/217   2400 Region 17 Echo Coord  1-206-848-5317  Puyallup WA

     138/101 9600 Story Board  1-206-848-5317  Puyallup WA

     138/3   2400 Puget Sound Gateway  1-206-848-9232  Puyallup WA

     138/35  2400 US HDS Human Service  1-206-442-8127  Seattle WA

     138/4   2400 PTC Net  1-206-757-5248  Mount Vernon WA

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     138/49  9600 The Cohort  1-206-848-2646  Puyallup WA

     138/52  2400 Burrell's Ballpark  1-206-752-4672  Tacoma WA

     343/111 2400 Lessor Puget TB  1-206-742-8067  Edmonds WA

     343/9   1200 Everett OPUS  1-206-355-1295  Everett WA

     139/640 2400 Fox Valley Tech  1-414-735-2513  Appleton WI

     154/200 2400 PC-Express  1-414-327-4104  Greenfield WI

     G'day, and show a vet you care!
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     FidoNews 5-23                Page 17                   6 Jun 1988


     =================================================================
                                  COLUMNS
     =================================================================

     Jake Hargrove
     Fido 301/1
     High Mesa Ranger's

     To the Graduates of 88.

     I know there are many of you out there who are over the age of 18
     and  have  long since forgot what it was like to be a  Senior  in
     High School.   I for one have long since become accustomed to the
     daily grind of getting up and going to work vs going to school.

     I  would  like to take this time to relate a few things to  those
     young  people who within the next few weeks will be walking  down
     the isle and receiving their diploma.

     You are the generation of progress.   You have within your  grasp
     the  ability  to excell where all of the other  generations  have
     come up short.   Many of you are into this world of communicating
     via  modem and computer terminals.   You should not be afraid  to
     take the one giant step for yourself,  as well as for mankind.  I
     beg  of you reach out and touch the fiber optics of reality.   Do
     not let your data sit idle and become someones old program  which
     is  spread  around as FREEWARE,  becuase the orginal  author  has
     either one gone on to bigger or better things.

     If  you  media becomes TRASHED,  then immediately seek out  fresh
     input and output means.   If your console is in  color,  remember
     some  of the rest of us see GREEN.   If your transmission rate is
     faster than some of us can receive, remember to cut your speed to
     match ours and do not leave us all behind.

     You  young people,  maybe our only mode of  expression,  and  our
     graphics  may  not  be in competition with  yours  but,  if  your
     harddisk  needs reformating or upgrading then by all means do so.
     If it is possible,  keep only those things which serve a  purpose
     and  go  on to those which you have a need to acquire.   When  it
     comes  to the end of your string,  and the EOF pounds  deep  into
     your programmed structure start all over again.

     So SENIORS OF 88.   It is now your time to take your place in the
     world of reality.   Never let it be said you could not handle all
     the  pressure  of  the moment.   Do not be afraid to  accept  the
     responsibility for your actions and remember this one thing above
     all.


                WE ARE IN THIS TO HAVE FUN!  IF IT IS NOT FUN
                IT IS NOT WORTH DOING.  WHEN IT BECOMES A PAIN
                TO PERFORM EVEN THE MOST MENIAL TASK IT IS
                TIME FOR YOU TO PURSUE ANOTHER PROGRAM.

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     FidoNews 5-23                Page 18                   6 Jun 1988


              Top Downloads: 5/27/88 - 5/27/88
      A weekly report of the most popular downloads
      from contributing FidoNet systems. Report created
      on May 31, 1988.

     Contributing systems:
     135/1 and 380/2


     Total downloads:       405
     Total callers:         178  (135/1 only)
     Average Utilization: 39.76% (135/1 only)


     File Download Report -- Top 20
     Rank Area\File Name         # DL's
     ------------------------------------------------------------
     1.  GAME\lotto.arc          5 Compute #'s for Florida Lotto
     2.  MISC\nansi.arc          5 ANSI.SYS substitute
     3.  LANG\BBSP\zmodem.arc    5 Either docs on Zmodem or program
     4. *GAME\bball.exe          4 Game
     5.  GAME\lotto.exe          4 More rnd # generators for lotto
     6. *    \pcpool.com         4
     7.  GAME\striker.arc        4 Game
     8.  GAME\airtrax2.arc       3
     9. *    \aquarium.arc       3
     10.*    \ask.arc            3
     11.*    \boot.arc           3
     12.*    \checkers.bas       3
     13.*    \fd34.com           3
     14. MISC\govtbbs.arc        3 List of government bbs'
     15. GAME\hack.arc           3 Adventure game
     16.*    \melt.arc           3
     17.*    \pachinko.arc       3
     18. GAME\sailing.arc        3
     19.*    \umind.arc          3
     20.     \will.arc           3
     *File(s) available on only one of the participating systems


        Selected Files of Interest
     Area\Name               #DL's
     --------------------------------------------------
     MISC\acode.arc          2
     UTIL\chk4bomb.arc       2 Check for trojans/worms
         \diary.arc          2
     GAME\mahjong.arc        2 Nice EGA game
     BBSP\obug_103.arc       2 Fix a serious bug in Opus 1.03a
     UTIL\scavenge.arc       2 Search Hard Drive for bad sectors
     GAME\staff.arc          2 Prints music paper w/various formats
     GAME\tank.arc           2
         \thatsall.exe       2
     APPL\vcr.exe            2 Catalog VCR tapes
     LANG\arc50sc.arc        1 Source to ARC 5.0
     ARCS\arcaid71.doc       1 ??
     ARCS\arcaid71.sda       1 ??
     FidoNews 5-23                Page 19                   6 Jun 1988


     LANG\clink120.arc       1 SEAlink protocol w/C source
     UTIL\dog101a.arc        1 Disk OrGanizer
     BBSP\fido520.arc        1 People actually do read FidoNews
     MISC\german2.arc        1 German tutorial
     LANG\hack361s.arc       1 C Source to Hack
     GAME\moria.arc          1 Quite popular game over the months
     COMM\pcplus11.arc       1 ProComm+ 1.1


     Transfer methods total       (rank)
     ------------------------------------
     Xmodem   download/upload: 209 (1)
     Zmodem   download/upload:  87 (2)
     Ymodem   download/upload:  63 (3)
     SEAlink  download/upload:  52 (4)*
     External download/upload:  16 (5)
     Telink   download/upload:  13 (6)


     *For you SEAlink fans -- and I wish there were more -- note that
     when someone does an Xmodem upload on Opus, Opus incorrectly
     stores that upload in the logfile (and on the screen) as a
     SEAlink upload. (At least on our system it does).

     For general information, 135/1 has been up and down during the
     day and early evening with some major Hard Drive problems this
     last week. (We won't talk about the 800 users we lost passwords
     for). We will be getting a new drive.  As a result, our stats for
     this week are considerably less than usual.

     Thanks to 380/2 for sending in his download statistics.  If
     there are any other systems interested in having your download
     statistics included in this weekly column, please send me your
     system stats in a similar format via net-mail at 135/1.  The
     complete system report from LogRpt so I can include utilization
     reports would be ideal. If there are filenames that may not
     fully indicate what the file is, please let me know. If there is
     a file you particularly want me to list, let me know. I need to
     have the information by Monday's Net-mail time in order to get
     the stats compiled. Please keep your reports at 7 or 8 days,
     Friday to Friday if possible and no longer than 10 days. (We can
     accept net-mail anytime of the day and are PC-Pursuitable).

     James Gilbert
     RAM-SOFT Archive Library (9600HST)
     1:135/1

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     FidoNews 5-23                Page 20                   6 Jun 1988


     =================================================================
                                  NOTICES
     =================================================================

                          The Interrupt Stack


     18 Jun 1988
        Area Code 407 takes effect in East/Central Florida. All Sysops
        should adjust their Nodelist entries immediately.

     25 Jun 1988
        EuroCon II starts in Tiel, Holland. Sponsored by the Dutch
        Hobby Computer Club. Will run for 2 days. Contact Hans
        Lichthelm at 2:2/999 for information.

     16 Jul 1988
        A new  areacode, 508, will  form in eastern  Massachusetts and
        will  be effective on  this date.  The  new area  code will be
        formed  from the  current  areacode 617.  Greater Boston  will
        remain areacode 617  while the  rest of eastern  Massachusetts
        will form the new areacode 508.

     25 Aug 1988
        Start  of the  Fifth  International  FidoNet Conference, to be
        held  at  the Drawbridge Inn  in Cincinnati, OH.  Contact  Tim
        Sullivan at 108/62 for more information. This is FidoNet's big
        annual get-together, and is your chance to meet all the people
        you've  been talking with  all this time.  We're hoping to see
        you there!

     24 Aug 1989
        Voyager 2 passes Neptune.


     If you have something which you would like to see on this
     calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1:1/1.

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                          Latest Software Versions

     BBS Systems            Node List              Other
     & Mailers   Version    Utilities   Version    Utilities   Version

     Dutchie        2.81    EditNL         4.00*   ARC            5.21
     Fido            12h*   MakeNL         2.10*   ARCmail         1.1
     Opus          1.03b    Prune          1.40    ConfMail       3.31
     SEAdog         4.10    XlatList       2.86    EchoMail       1.31
     TBBS           2.0M    XlaxNode       1.02    MGM             1.1
     BinkleyTerm    1.50*   XlaxDiff       1.02
     QuickBBS       2.01*   ParseList      1.10

     * Recently changed

     Utility authors:  Please help  keep  this  list  up  to  date  by
     FidoNews 5-23                Page 21                   6 Jun 1988


     reporting  new  versions  to 1:1/1.  It is not our intent to list
     all utilities here, only those which verge on necessity.

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     FidoNews 5-23                Page 22                   6 Jun 1988


            OFFICERS OF THE INTERNATIONAL FIDONET ASSOCIATION

     Ken Kaplan       100/22   Chairman of the Board
     Don Daniels      107/210  President
     Mark Grennan     147/1    Vice President
     Dave Dodell      114/15   Vice President - Technical Coordinator
     Tom Marshall     107/524  Secretary
     Leonard Mednick  12/1     Treasurer



                         IFNA BOARD OF DIRECTORS

         DIVISION                               AT-LARGE

     10  Steve Jordan      102/2871        Don Daniels     107/210
     11  Bill Allbritten   11/301          Hal DuPrie      101/106
     12  Leonard Mednick   12/1            Mark Grennan    147/1
     13  Rick Siegel       107/27          Brad Hicks      100/523
     14  Ken Kaplan        100/22          Ted Polczyinski 154/5
     15  Jim Cannell       128/13          Kurt Reisler    109/74
     16  Vince Perriello   141/491         Robert Rudolph  261/628
     17  Rob Barker        138/34          Greg Small      148/122
     18  Christopher Baker 135/14          Bob Swift       140/24
     19  Vernon Six        19/0            Larry Wall      15/18
      2  Henk Wevers       2:500/1         Gee Wong        107/312

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     FidoNews 5-23                Page 23                   6 Jun 1988


                                      __
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            Membership for the International FidoNet Association

     Membership in IFNA is open to any individual or organization that
     pays the annual membership fee.  IFNA serves the international
     FidoNet-compatible electronic mail community to increase
     worldwide communications.

     Name __________________________________  Date ___________________
     Address _________________________________________________________
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     Home Phone (Voice) ______________________________________________
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     Is this a new application? _________  a renewal? ________________
     Are you a Sysop? _________  If so, for how long? ________________

     Your BBS Info:   (Non-Sysops enter info for your most-called BBS)
     Zone:Net/Node Number ____________________________________________
     BBS Name ________________________________________________________
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     Your Special Interests __________________________________________
     _________________________________________________________________
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     In what areas would you be willing to help in FidoNet? __________
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               Regular Membership                     $25
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         Send this form and a check or money order in US Funds to:
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                   Honolulu, HI   96813    USA


     IFNA is a general not-for-profit organization.  Articles of
     Association and By-Laws were adopted by the membership in January
     FidoNews 5-23                Page 24                   6 Jun 1988


     1987.  The IFNA Echomail Conference has been established on
     FidoNet to assist the Board of Directors.  We welcome your input
     on this Conference.

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     FidoNews 5-23                Page 25                   6 Jun 1988


                     INTERNATIONAL FIDONET ASSOCIATION
                                 ORDER FORM

                                Publications

     The IFNA publications can be obtained by downloading from Fido
     1:1/10 or  other FidoNet compatible  systems, or by purchasing
     them directly from IFNA.  We ask that  all our  IFNA Committee
     Chairmen   provide  us   with  the  latest  versions  of  each
     publication, but we can make no written guarantees.

     Hardcopy prices as of October 1, 1986

        IFNA Fido BBS listing                       $15.00    _____
        IFNA Administrative Policy DOCs             $10.00    _____
        IFNA FidoNet Standards Committee DOCs       $10.00    _____

                                                  SUBTOTAL    _____

                      IFNA Member ONLY Special Offers

        System Enhancement Associates SEAdog        $60.00    _____
        SEAdog price as of March 1, 1987
        ONLY 1 copy SEAdog per IFNA Member

        Fido Software's Fido/FidoNet               $100.00    _____
        Fido/FidoNet price as of November 1, 1987
        ONLY 1 copy Fido/FidoNet per IFNA Member

        International orders include $10.00 for
               surface shipping or $20.00 for air shipping    _____

                                                  SUBTOTAL    _____

                    HI. Residents add 4.0 % Sales tax         _____

                                                  TOTAL       _____

        SEND CHECK OR MONEY ORDER IN US FUNDS:
        International FidoNet Association
        c/o Leonard Mednick, MBA, CPA
        700 Bishop Street, #1014
        Honolulu, HI.  96813-4112
        USA

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