[comp.org.fidonet] FidoNet Newsletter, Volume 7, # 28

pozar@kumr.UUCP (Tim Pozar) (07/14/90)

     Volume 7, Number 28                                   9 July 1990
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     Editor in Chief:                                  Vince Perriello
     Editors Emeritii:                    Thom Henderson,  Dale Lovell
     Chief Procrastinator Emeritus:                       Tom Jennings
     
     Copyright 1990, Fido Software.  All rights reserved.  Duplication
     and/or distribution permitted  for  noncommercial  purposes only.
     For use in other circumstances, please  contact  Fido Software.
     
     FidoNews  is  published  weekly  by  the  System Operators of the
     FidoNet  (r)  International  BBS Network.  It is a compilation of
     individual articles  contributed  by  their authors or authorized
     agents of the  authors.    The  contribution  of articles to this
     compilation does not diminish the rights of the authors. 
     
     You  are  encouraged   to  submit  articles  for  publication  in
     FidoNews.  Article submission standards are contained in the file
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     Fido Software, Box  77731,  San  Francisco  CA 94107, USA and are
     used with permission.
     
     Opinions expressed in  FidoNews articles are those of the authors
     and are not necessarily  those of the Editor or of Fido Software.
     Most articles are unsolicited.   Our  policy  is to publish every
     responsible submission received.


                        Table of Contents
     1. ARTICLES  .................................................  1
        A New Computer Magazine  ..................................  1
        Region17 FidoCon Preliminary Program  .....................  3
        Region17 Registration Form  ...............................  6
        Announcing Socrates BBS System v1.00  .....................  9
        NEW! FidoCon '90 Registration Form  ....................... 12
     2. COLUMNS  .................................................. 14
        Talk Me Through It, Honey  ................................ 14
     3. LATEST VERSIONS  .......................................... 17
        Latest Software Versions  ................................. 17
     4. NOTICES  .................................................. 20
     And more!
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                                 ARTICLES
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     Dan Grigor
     Fido 1:202/412


     Announcing a new Computer Magazine


     I would like to take this opportunity to let the world know that
     there is soon to be an exciting new magazine in San Diego.  It is
     so new that it doesn't even have a name yet.  Oh, we've toyed
     with a few ideas, and I'm sure one will land on it soon, but for
     now we just want to let you know what is happening and see if you
     would like to be involved.

     Our goal is to be a free, locally run, news magazine for the
     computing community, available at computer stores, electronically,
     at local libraries and, frankly, anywhere else where someone will
     put us on their counter, in front of their store, on the hood of
     their car...

     We would like to have the standard assortment of reading fare:
     Columns dealing with specific computers;  Q & A;  an extensive BBS
     list as well as an "on-line" column;  information about user
     groups;  cartoons;  informative, educational and humorous articles
     on any computer-related subject.

     So there it is, an invitation to be part of a new magazine right
     from the start.  You don't have to live in San Diego to be a part
     of it, you just have to have something that would be of interest
     to our readers.  Any submission you may deem appropriate will be
     reviewed and will more than likely get in, as our requirements
     are pretty much "if you write it, we'll print it." *

             * That is, if it makes sense to SOMEBODY! :-) *

     If you are, or would like to be, a writer or cartoonist,  send
     us an example of your work.  Be warned it may get used, so send
     only things you would like to have included.

     If you have a BBS send us your information. Name, number, hours,
     baud rates etc.  If you have or belong to a user group send us
     your information.

     If you have any advice for us (good or bad) send it along.
     If you think we're nuts... let us know.
     If you're nuts... let us know.

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     We can be reached in a number of ways:

     Netmail:       1:202/412

     BBS:           Electro-Shok Therapy
                    (619)723-3965
                    23hrs 2400 bips 8/N/1

     USnailMail:    Electro-Shok Therapy
                    P.O. Box 105
                    Fallbrook, CA 92028

     CIS:           Dan Grigor
                    ID# 71511,577

     Thanks in advance for all your help, advice, contributions --
     and for requesting our Advertising Rate Card!


                                Dan Grigor
                                Danielle Foster

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     Janet Murray
     Fido 1:105/23

     We're pretty flexible in Net105; if _this_ works, we may even consider
     hosting FidoCon '91!  Meanwhile, here's our loose agenda for R17Con
     (thanks to the Program Director):

                              Preliminary Program
                                27-29 July 1990

                           Friday 27 July - Evening
                          --------------------------

     Dinner

     R17 Echomail: Philosophy, Procedures, and Funding
       As echomail is always a prominent topic, and we have had a
       recent scare or two, it is worth discussing the philosophy,
       procedures, and economics of how we move echomail within the
       region.

     General Socializing


                            Saturday 28 July - Day
                          --------------------------

     Breakfast

     Product Presentations (each will be time limited as this is not
     a commercial meeting)
       o Hardware
         at least one modem manufacturer will be announcing a new
         product with interesting pricing and features
       o FidoNetware
         Bink's and Opus's hackers will be here, and others are
         deciding
       o Users may talk about those goodies whose authors/vendors are
         not present

     Lunch

     How we do it in our Net
       A R17Con tradition where some of the local nets describe some
       of the unique aspects of technology, procedures, financing,
       sex, ... in their local nets.

     Tricks of the Trade
       o Technical Questions and Answers
         a select panel of techies will answer questions (with help
         and jeering from the floor) about netware, modems, and
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         hiding the expenses from the SO

     Dinner


                          Saturday 28 July - Evening
                          --------------------------

     Curmudgeon Tossing Contest
       Rules have been published in FidoNews.  Matt Whelan, IC, may
       donate one Get Out of Excommunication Free card to be awarded
       to the winning team.

     General Socializing


                           Sunday 29 July - Morning
                          --------------------------

     Breakfast

     Plans for Next Year's Meeting
       which net will be the victim?
       when should it be held?
       cost and other constraints

     General Gab and Wind-down and Other Things we've Forgotten


                              Loosely Scheduled
                          --------------------------

     Diskette Throwing Contest
       This traditional hotly contested event will have to be
       scheduled on an ad hoc basis, as the Columbia Gorge, though
       beautiful, has frequent winds.  Please remember that diskettes
       must be unaltered 5.25" disks, and accuracy is more important
       than distance.

     Dweeb Throwing Contest
       This new continuous event is open to both team and individual
       players, but no points are awarded unless you can provoke the
       dweeb into posting at least one embarrassingly inept echomail
       flame first.


                                W A R N I N G
                          --------------------------

     After much Net-1:105 and Region-1:17 discussion, it was agreed
     to hold this meeting at Menucha, despite the restriction that no
     drop-in attendees would be possible.  It was felt that Menucha's
     great facilities and scandalously low prices (you can do the
     entire meeting for about $75 including meals and accommodation!)
     were worth this retriction.

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     This means that cruising up for the afternoon will not work.
     You either register for the meeting (one and two day plans are
     available), or "it's tough tamales."

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     Janet Murray
     1:105/23

       * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
       *              FIDONET REGION 17 CONVENTION                 *
       *               OFFICIAL REGISTRATION FORM                  *
       *                     July 27-29, 1990                      *
       *          Menucha Camp and Conference Grounds              *
       *                     Corbett, Oregon                       *
       * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

     Name _____________________________   FidoNet Address _________

     SnailMail Address ___________________________________________

     ___________________________________________  Date Sent ______

     Voice phone (in case of questions): ________________________

     Please indicate for each person attending, the option selected,
     and fill in the appropriate charges:

     _Number_            _Name(s)_                   _Subtotals_

               Registration fee @ $5
     _____     (FidoNet Sysops ONLY)               $        _____

     OPTION A: Friday 5 p.m. to Sunday 11 a.m.
               DORM
     _____     Adult(s) __________________________ $  65.50 _____

     _____     Student(s) ________________________    56.50 _____
               (Age 12 to 18 OR Full-time student)
     _____     Child(ren) ________________________    36.25 _____
               (Age 11 and under)
     _____     Supply bedding @ $6 per person               _____

               SEMI-PRIVATE
     _____     Adult(s) __________________________    83.50 _____

     _____     Student(s) ________________________    56.50 _____
               (in parents' room)
     _____     Child(ren) ________________________    36.25 _____
               (in parents' room)

               PRIVATE
     _____     Adult(s) __________________________   102.50 _____

     OPTION B: Saturday 8 a.m. to Sunday 11 a.m.
               DORM
     _____     Adult(s) __________________________    48.00 _____

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     _____     Student(s) ________________________    42.50 _____
               (Age 12 to 18 OR Full-time Student)
     _____     Child(ren) ________________________    29.50 _____
               (Age 11 and under)
     _____     Supply bedding @ $6 per person               _____

               SEMI-PRIVATE
     _____     Adult(s) ___________________________   59.00 _____

     _____     Student(s) _________________________   42.50 _____
               (in parents' room)
     _____     Child(ren) _________________________   29.50 _____
               (in parents' room)

               PRIVATE
     _____     Adult(s) ___________________________   72.50 _____

     OPTION C: Saturday 8 a.m. to Saturday 10 p.m.
     (Meals only, no accommodations)

     _____     Adult(s) ___________________________   37.00 _____

     _____     Student(s) _________________________   32.00 _____

     _____     Child(ren) _________________________   21.00 _____

               SUBTOTAL                             $           _____


     LATE REGISTRATION FEES (_after_ May 15th):

     ================================================================
     |     IMPORTANT NOTE: Since we must estimate  _and pay for_    |
     |     the number who will be attending by mid-May, there       |
     |   will be a limited number of places for late registrants!   |
     ================================================================

           Paid by June 15th:
     _____ Number of reservations @ $10     _____

           Paid by July 15th
     _____ Number of reservations @ $20     _____

           Paid after July 15th
     _____ Number of reservations @ $30     _____

                                TOTAL ADDITIONS       $         _____

                                  TOTAL PAYMENT ENCLOSED:       $ _____
     Make checks payable (in U.S. Funds) to:
     Net 105 Treasury / REG17CON

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     Send registration to:

     Region 17 Convention
     c/o Ken Zwaschka
     Ken Zwaschka & Associates
     P.O. Box 2226
     Portland, Oregon, U.S.A. 97208-2226

     Reservations and room assignments will be confirmed via NetMail
     within 48 hours of receipt.

     Registration packets with a map to Menucha and information about
     Portland metropolitan area shopping and recreational faciltities
     will be mailed to all registrants on July 1st.

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     Announcing the release of the Socrates BBS System v1.00


     Features:

      - EXTREMELY customizable via Socrates BBS Programming System

      - Uses an alternate Subject-Oriented message system as well as
        regular Fido/Opus style

      - Has a completly flexibile access system; allows a full
        boolean logic statement instead of just a privelege level


     Uses standard *.MSG message format and works with most standard
     message utilities.

     Request SOCRATES from 1:150/199.0 (Delaware, max baud 2400)
                           1:140/24.0  (Saskatchewan, max baud 9600, HST)

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     * Software Review: Save the Planet

     Software Review: Save the Planet
     By Kevin Johnson, 141/552.2


        This is my first fidonews article, so you'll have to bear
     with me if it isn't perfect.

        A while ago, I ran across a piece of software that I thought
     was worth telling others about.  I found the software on my
     boss node, 1:141/552.0.  It's available there for file-request
     or download if you're interested, and I'm sure it's on dozens
     of other BBS's across the country.

        The program was called _Save the Planet_ and it bills itself
     as an "Environmental Database on Global Warming and Ozone
     Depletion."  It is all that and more!

        It is written by Roger & Kathy Cox of Pitkin, Colorado.  For
     this article all the usual disclaimers apply: I don't work for
     them, we don't own stock in some joint company, et cetera, et
     cetera.  And please don't let my lack of writing skills reflect
     on the program.  I just want to tell you all about this fine
     piece of shareware software called _Save the Planet_.

        Save the Planet (hereby referred to as STP) is "green"
     software.  It is designed to inform people about the
     environment in a truly innovative way.

        The program runs on any sort of monitor, it worked just fine
     on my CGA setup, and it'll run on anything from monochrome to
     the best VGA displays.  It requires 512k of RAM.  The program
     opens with a title screen and it shows a computer simulation
     of the growth of the hole in the ozone layer in Antarctica from
     1985-1987.  Seeing this graphically is really shocking.  That
     hole's definitely gotten much bigger in two years!

        On the main menu of STP it displays lettered options for all
     of the program's choices.  The main menu is divided into two
     categories, "Looking at the problem" and "Taking action to
     solve it."

        Under "Looking at the problem" it explains what global
     warming is and about things such as CFC's and most of the
     other environmental buzzwords that you hear.  Included in
     the explanations are graphs of different things.  There's such
     things as a list of books you can read for more information and
     much, much more.  There's even a "game" (if you could call
     something so serious a game - the program calls it that so
     that's what I'll call it too) or a model of how the earth will
     be effected by reducing or not reducing carbon dioxide
     emissions over the next 50 years.  The game lets you see what
     will happen if we choose not to reduce carbon dioxide emissions
     or what will happen at various levels of reduction.

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        On the "Taking action to solve it" side of the menu, there
     is really some good stuff.  Included here is a complete
     database of how every one of our congresspersons voted on
     environmental matters.  You can look up to see how your Senator
     and/or Congressperson voted.  Included also is a listing of
     various environmental groups -- both major and minor -- and
     their particular areas of interest, if they have any.  There's
     also a mini-word processor to write your congressperson a
     letter telling them how you feel about the environment.
     There's sections on things like tips on how you can save
     energy, learn about recycling, be a more envionmental-concious
     consumer and much, much more.

        The program is really well done and all data in the program
     are from established sources.  I've barely scratched the
     surface of what is available in the program, but hopefully it
     is enough to make you want to see what the program really has
     to offer.  For such an important topic this program does a fine
     job of educating people about what is at stake if we do not
     get serious about protecting our environment and changing our
     lifestyles to become more environmentally-concious.

        Look for Save the Planet on your local bulletin board, I
     found version 1.14 as STP.ZIP and the archive was 188k.  Or
     you may reach the authors at:

     Save the Planet Shareware
     P.O. Box 45
     Pitkin, CO 81241
     (303) 641-5035

        The registration for the program is $15 which includes a
     free updated version which will come out after the fall
     elections.  A Macintosh version is supposed to be released
     this summer.


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          The Secret Sysop Society presents            __
                *** Conclave '90 ***                  /  \
                The SYSOPS Convention                /|oo \
                Home of FidoCon 1990                (_|  /_)
                Lyndhurst, New Jersey                _`@/_ \    _
                  August 1-5, 1990                  |     | \   \\
                                                    | (*) |  \   ))
                                       ______       |__U__| /  \//
                                      / Fido \       _//|| _\   /
                                     (________)     (_/(_|(____/ (tm)

     Rate Plan Schedule: (Hotel rooms cannot be guaranteed if you
                                register after July 1st!)
     A. Single Occupancy...................$545.00
     B. Double Occupancy...................$400.00
     C. Conference w/ meals................$250.00
     D. Conference w/ Banquet..............$105.00
     E. Conference only.....................$75.00
     F. Banquet only........................$30.00
     G. Registrant & Spouse................$670.00

     Plans A B & G include all conference and hotel fees and meals.
     Prices are for pre-registrants using this form only.

     You must pay by Check, Money Order, or Credit Card.  Please send
     no cash.  All monies must be in U.S. Funds.  Checks should be
     made out to: "Conclave '90"

     The following registration form must be completed and mailed to:
                         PO Box 12
                         Lyndhurst, NJ 07071

     You may register by Netmailing this completed form to 1:1/90 for
     processing.  Rename it to ZNNNXXXX.REG where Z is your Zone
     number, N is your Net number, and X is your Node number.  US Mail
     confirmation is required within 72 hours of electronic filing.

     If you are paying by credit card, please include the required
     information.  For your own security, do not route any message
     with your credit card number on it.  Crash it directly to 1:1/90.

     The official Conclave '90 airline is American Airlines.
     American offers a 5% discount the lowest applicable round-trip
     fare, including 1st class travel, subject to availability of
     inventory.  All fare rules and restrictions apply.  In addition,
     American offers 40% off their round trip unrestricted day coach
     fare.  International travelers qualify for special benefits,
     including complimentary admittance to the Admiral's Club Lounge
     at any American Airlines terminal.  Newark is an American Air-
     lines city with direct flights to most major cities.  When making
     reservations, you must call American's Toll-free reservation
     number at 800-433-1790, and reference Star number 13704F.
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         F I D O - C O N  '90   R E G I S T R A T I O N   F O R M

     Name: __________________________________________________________

     Address: _____________________________  Apt. or Suite: _________

     City: _________________________  State or Province: ____________

     Postal Code: __________________  Country: ______________________

     Voice Phone: ______________________  Data: _____________________

     Zone:Net/Node.Point@Domain: ____________________________________

     Special requirements: __________________________________________

     +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
     | Option        | Full                |     | Pre-Reg. | Line  |
     |(Choose 1: A-G)| Name                | Qty | Pricing  | Total |
     +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
     | PLAN A**      |                     |     | $545.00  |       |
     +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
     | PLAN B**      |                     |     | $400.00  |       |
     +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
     | PLAN C        |                     |     | $250.00  |       |
     +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
     | PLAN D        |                     |     | $105.00  |       |
     +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
     | PLAN E        |                     |     | $ 75.00  |       |
     +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
     | PLAN F        |                     |     | $ 30.00  |       |
     +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
     | PLAN G**      |                     |     | $670.00  |       |
     +===============+=====================+=====+==========+=======+
     |*NJ Beach Trip |                     |     | $  24.50 |       |
     +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
     |*Eve. NYC Tour |                     |     | $  37.50 |       |
     +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
     |*NYC Shop Tour |                     |     | $  36.50 |       |
     +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
     |*Medieval Times|                     |     | $  50.00 |       |
     +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
      ** includes registration, Hotel, and meals | Total  $ |       |
      *  Requires Pre-registration (before 7/1)  +==========+=======+

     MC _____  Visa _____  Card Number: _____________________________

     Expiration: ___________  Signature _____________________________
            ( Credit card registrations require valid signature )
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     =================================================================
                                  COLUMNS
     =================================================================

     Henry Clark
     124/6120


     I'll Go Long and You Fake It To Me --

     My favorite computer store has a 14 day money back guarantee.
     I go there 26 times a year !

     So Friday afternoon, I was in there returning a 286 clone.
     Some kind of goofy VLSI chip on the motherboard was trying to
     do EVERYTHING, and was latching the IRQ I needed, even though
     I'd clearly set the 'disable' jumper correctly.

     Those VLSI chips are neat, until you realize that if it goes
     bad, well forget the whole motherboard, it's worthless. Give me
     everything on the slot cards and socketed chips as well.  But
     then, that's another CAT FIGHT.

     I picked out a slightly more reasonable 286 clone, for slightly
     more money, and cruised through the rest of the store on the
     way to the cashier.

     'Honey Interrupt' :  Oh, I see, you'll shop the computer store,
     but you won't shop for shoes with me.  Hmmph !


     He's at Midfield --

     So anyways, I see this Hand SCANNER/OCR package sitting right
     there.  Shoot, there's dozens of them.  I grab it, pay for it (
     and the new clone ), and head on home.  I've been looking for
     this for weeks.

     Later that evening, I'm plugging in the bus card, and checking
     it all out, when young Kevin ( the Asst-sysop ) just sort of
     APPEARS.  Like from out of no where.  I start the DOS scanner
     program, and pull the scanner across a color photo of him.
     First scan, perfect, and his jaw drops off watching his FACE
     scroll onto the screen.

     You could see his little four year old muscles start twitching;
     hear his brain cells whirring, trying to figure a way to get at
     this 'toy' without getting Dad all riled up about breakage,
     dirt, expense, you know, all the things that keep him from
     playing with everything else I own.

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     'Honey Interrupt' : ( Also appearing out of no where. ) So, how
     much did it cost ?

     So next I set up the paint/scan program and he recognizes the
     'paint game' immediately.  I started scanning another picture
     of him into the paint program window, and then :  QEMM
     EXCEPTION !  SET DMA=91.

     These are the absolute worst kinds of problems.  No not the
     software, the anxious kid in your face who wants to know when
     if it's fixed after every keystroke. A quick look at the
     Desqview book, and VIOLA : set the DMA buffer smaller. I went
     ahead and set it to 64 (k) in case Binkley decides to pull a
     fancy swap move.


     He's at The Goal Box --

     Well finally, I get back to the paint program, and hand it over
     to Mr. Hopping With Delight.  When he gets going, I just get
     out.

     'Honey Interrupt' :  Want to see what *I* bought today ?

     Sure, I say.  Out comes some new boots.  New Cowgirl boots at
     that. New Nieman Marcus Cowgirl boots.  ( Hey wait a second. )
     New Lizard-skin Nieman Marcus ITALIAN Cowgirl boots.  Groan.
     How much did those cost ?

     She: How much did your new computer toy cost ?

     So you're thinking "Why did he buy a 286 ?"  You're just like
     the damn salesmen at the store.  I'm gonna make a ROCK VIDEO,
     all right?.  In the final scene, we pour gasoline on it and it
     goes up in a huge fireball. OK, man ?  Where's your 20 inch
     monitors?

     The truth is even better.  I'm selling a turnkey system to a
     big giant corporation and the order calls for an AT compatible,
     color monitor and 80 meg hard disk.  So an AT is a 286.  I did
     get a nice VGA package, though.  Could'a stiffed them with CGA,
     but hey, I'm a nice guy.  I used the starch sparingly.


     It's a Shot on Goal --

     So in comes the 'Scan Master' with a piece of printer paper.
     Where did you learn to print ?  It's the button next to the
     Coke can, Dad.  ( What Coke can ? )

     I look at the paper, and there *I* am, with a scary hairdo,
     eyes like dead cartoon characters ( x x ), a huge beard and
     some kind of arrow/stick which appears to have entered at the
     back of my neck and come out through my stomach. When FIDONEWS
     goes graphic, I'll send it to ya.

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     Finally, he get's off to bed, and I get to play with the OCR.
     It works !  It's actually pretty good at recognizing
     characters.  This program does not use specific font matching,
     so you don't get to 'train' the recognition function.  The
     post-match routine just gives you a picture of the unrecognized
     character ( usually two characters stuck together ), and you
     type in the two characters, or whatever it takes.

     I'm a real fast typist, and I believe I can get about two times
     that character rate per minute using the
     scan/recognize/correction cycle.  I can't wait to use the
     pictures in some desktop publishing.

     'Honey Interrupt' : When are you coming to bed ?

     Me : Are you going to wear your new boots ?
     Her: Are you going to look at your computer all night ?
     Me : I'll turn off the computer if you take off the boots.
     Her: I'll take back the boots if you take back the computer.
     Me : OK.

     It's Wide ! Wait, there's a red card...


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                              MS-DOS Systems
                              --------------

                           Bulletin Board Software
     Name        Version    Name        Version    Name       Version

     DMG            2.93*   Phoenix         1.3    TAG           2.5e*
     Fido            12s+   QuickBBS       2.64*   TBBS           2.1
     Lynx           1.30    RBBS          17.3A*   TComm/TCommNet 3.4
     Kitten         2.16    RBBSmail      17.3A*   Telegard       2.5*
     Maximus        1.00    RemoteAccess    .03*   TPBoard        6.1*
     Opus           1.12+*  SLBBS          1.76*   Wildcat!      2.10
     PCBoard        14.2*

     Network                Node List              Other
     Mailers     Version    Utilities   Version    Utilities  Version

     BinkleyTerm    2.30    EditNL         4.00    ARC           6.02
     D'Bridge       1.30    MakeNL         2.20    ARCAsim       2.30*
     Dutchie       2.90C    ParseList      1.30    ARCmail       2.07
     FrontDoor     1.99c*   Prune          1.40    ConfMail      4.00
     PRENM          1.47    SysNL          3.11    Crossnet      v1.5*
     SEAdog        4.51b    XlatList       2.90    EMM           2.02
     TIMS      1.0(Mod8)*   XlaxDiff       2.35*   Gmail         2.05
                            XlaxNode       2.35*   GROUP         2.16
                                                   GUS           1.30
                                                   INTERPCB      1.20*
                                                   LHARC         1.13
                                                   MSG            4.1*
                                                   MSGED         1.99
                                                   PK[UN]ZIP     1.10*
                                                   QM             1.0
                                                   QSORT         4.03
                                                   Sirius        1.0w*
                                                   SLMAIL        1.35*
                                                   StarLink      1.01
                                                   TagMail       2.20
                                                   TCOMMail       2.2
                                                   Telemail      1.20*
                                                   TMail         1.15
                                                   TPBNetEd       3.2
                                                   TosScan       1.00*
                                                   UFGATE        1.03
                                                   XRS           3.20*
                                                   ZmailQ        1.10
     FidoNews 7-28                Page 18                   9 Jul 1990


                                 Macintosh
                                 ---------

     Bulletin Board Software   Network Mailers     Other Utilities

     Name            Version   Name      Version   Name       Version

     Red Ryder Host  v2.1b10   Tabby         2.2   MacArc        0.04
     Mansion            7.15   Copernicus   1.0d*  ArcMac         1.3
     WWIV (Mac)          3.0                       StuffIt       1.51
     FBBS               0.91*                      TImport      1.331
     Hermes             0.88*                      TExport       1.32
                                                   Timestamp      1.6
                                                   Tset           1.3
                                                   Import         3.2
                                                   Export        3.21
                                                   Sundial        3.2
                                                   PreStamp       3.2
                                                   OriginatorII   2.0
                                                   AreaFix        1.6
                                                   Mantissa       3.21
                                                   Zenith         1.5
                                                   UNZIP        1.02b

                                   Amiga
                                   -----

     Bulletin Board Software   Network Mailers     Other Utilities

     Name            Version   Name      Version   Name       Version

     Paragon            2.06+  BinkleyTerm  1.00   AmigArc       0.23
                               TrapDoor     1.50*  AReceipt       1.5*
                               WelMat       0.35   booz          1.01
                                                   ConfMail      1.10
                                                   ChameleonEdit 0.10
                                                   ElectricHerald1.66*
                                                   Lharc         1.10
                                                   MessageFilter 1.52*
                                                   oMMM         1.49b
                                                   ParseLst      1.30
                                                   PkAX          1.00
                                                   PK[UN]ZIP     1.01
                                                   PolyxAmy      2.02*
                                                   RMB           1.30
                                                   TrapList      1.12*
                                                   UNzip         0.86
                                                   Yuck!         1.61*
                                                   Zoo           2.00

                                 Atari ST
     FidoNews 7-28                Page 19                   9 Jul 1990


                                 --------

     Bulletin Board Software   Network Mailer      Other Utilities

     Name            Version   Name      Version   Name       Version

     FIDOdoor/ST        1.5c*  BinkleyTerm 1.03g3  ConfMail      1.00
     Pandora BBS       2.41c   The BOX     1.20    ParseList     1.30
     QuickBBS/ST        0.40                       ARC           6.02*
     GS Point           0.61                       LHARC         0.51
                                                   LED ST        0.10*
                                                   BYE           0.25*
                                                   PKUNZIP       1.10
                                                   MSGED        1.96S
                                                   SRENUM         6.2
                                                   Trenum        0.10
                                                   OMMM          1.40


                                Archimedes
                                ----------

     BBS Software           Mailers                Utilities
     Name        Version    Name        Version    Name       Version

     ARCbbs         1.44*   BinkleyTerm    2.03*   Unzip        2.1TH
                                                   ARC           1.03
                                                   !Spark       2.00d*

                                                   ParseLst      1.30
                                                   BatchPacker   1.00*


     + Netmail capable (does not require additional mailer software)
     * Recently changed

     Utility authors:  Please help  keep  this  list  up  to  date  by
     reporting  new  versions  to 1:1/1.  It is not our intent to list
     all utilities here, only those which verge on necessity.

     -----------------------------------------------------------------
     FidoNews 7-28                Page 20                   9 Jul 1990


     =================================================================
                                  NOTICES
     =================================================================

                          The Interrupt Stack


     14 Jul 1990
        Start of Eurocon / Techcon conference in Antwerp, Belgium.
        Please note that the date has changed: The conferences are
        one day later than originally planned !

     15 Jul 1990
        Michael Keller, sysop of 1:170/401, will be wedded to Ruby Morain.

     27 Jul 1990
        The beginning of the REGION 17 Convention at Menucha Resort in
        the Columbia Gorge, Oregon.  For details contact Ken Zwaschka,
        1:105/54.

      1 Aug 1990
        Start of FidoCon '90. Contact Bill Vanglahn at 1:1/90 for
        details.

     17 Aug 1990
        Start of first ever Searchlight SysOps convention in Chicago, IL.
        Contact Marge Robbins at 1:283/120 for details.

      5 Oct 1990
        21st Anniversary of "Monty Python's Flying Circus"

      6 Nov 1990
        First anniversary of Van Diepen Automatiseert, 2:500/28

     14 Nov 1990
        Marco Maccaferri's 21rd Birthday. Send greetings to him at
        2:332/16.0

      1 Jan 1991
        Implementation of 7% Goods and Services Tax in Canada. Contact
        Joe Lindstrom at 1:134/55 for a more colorful description.

     16 Feb 1991
        Fifth anniversary of the introduction of Echomail, by Jeff Rush.

      7 Oct 1991
        Area code  415  fragments.   Alameda and Contra Costa Counties
        will  begin  using  area  code  510.   This includes  Oakland,
        Concord, Berkeley  and  Hayward.    San  Francisco, San Mateo,
        Marin, parts of  Santa Clara County, and the San Francisco Bay
        Islands will retain area code 415.

     FidoNews 7-28                Page 21                   9 Jul 1990


      1 Feb 1992
        Area  code 213 fragments.    Western,  coastal,  southern  and
        eastern portions of Los Angeles  County  will begin using area
        code 310.  This includes Los  Angeles  International  Airport,
        West  Los  Angeles,  San  Pedro and Whittier.    Downtown  Los
        Angeles  and  surrounding  communities  (such as Hollywood and
        Montebello) will retain area code 213.

      5 Jun 1997
        David Dodell's 40th Birthday


     If you have something which you would like to see on this
     calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1:1/1.

     -----------------------------------------------------------------

     Harvey Wyche
     Fido 1:11/15

                            New NUTRITION Echo

     The OpLine  BBS / Health and Nutrition Opinion Line at 1:11/15 in
     Evansville, IN.   is  sponsoring  a  new  NUTRITION  Echo.    The
     Conference Moderator is Harvey  Wyche.  Messages on the NUTRITION
     Echo deal with food and  nutrition  issues as they relate to good
     health.

     NUTRITION functions as an open forum  for the expression of ideas
     and opinions as well as the exchange  of  news  and helpful hints
     about nutrition and diet.  The Echo is  not  part  of  any  diet,
     weight loss center, or nutritional program.  One of  the  special
     features of the Echo is the weekly posting of requested  Nutrient
     Analyses of common foods (including many fast food items).

     David Dodell at St.  Joes Hospital at 1:114/15 has offered to act
     as HUB for the NUTRITION Echo.  If you would like to  participate
     in  the  Echo,  please contact me via netmail at 1:11/15.  I will
     advise you  as  to  when  the  feed  for  your  system  has  been
     activated.

     Your participation is  most  welcome.  We look forward to hearing
     from you within the Echo.  Thank you.

     Harvey...

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Remember Campers!!!

To send mail from an Internet site or smart UUCP Site TO a user 
            	  that calls a Fido-Net system.

  You need to know the name of the person and node number of the 
  Fido-Net system that the person uses.
     
  The address of a FidoNode looks like this: 1:105/302.0. Usually
  the 1: and .0 are left off, but they are there by default. (In
  Europe it is 2: and in the Pacific Basin it is 3:.) That
  address can be translated as "Zone 1, Net 105, FidoNode 302,
  Point 0." or p0.f302.n105.z1. Add the FidoNet domain of
  .fidonet.org to the end of that, chop off the p0 (it is again,
  a default) and you have f302.n105.z1.fidonet.org - the "Fully
  Qualified Domain Name" of a FidoNode. Another example is
  1:105/4.3 which would be written as p3.f4.n105.z1.fidonet.org
  (since there is a point number other than 0, we have to specify
  it). Note also that we are only using zone 1.  This will also
  work for zones 2 and 3, just use z2 or z3 as appropriate.

  FidoNet uses full names of the callers.  Multi-part name folks
  (eg. First Last, ie. "Dale Weber") will have a period '.'
  seperating their names.  So, lets say you wanted to send mail 
  to Dale Weber at 1:105/55.0, you would address your letter to:
        Dale.Weber@f55.n105.z1.fidonet.org.

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