[net.jobs] Employing non-U.S. citizens

daveb@reed.UUCP (David Billstrom) (04/27/85)

I just left a company where I hired a foreign citizen (Holland) and
brought him into the United States.  I found the process very time-
consuming (5 months from offer to arrival) and an education in dealing
with bureaucracy.  I too had to prove that he supplied expertise or
ability not available from a United States citizen.  This wasn't difficult,
since he had a couple of years experience working with
our source code, as an employee of one of our major customers --
Expert knowledge that less than say 30 people world-wide have.  Of
course, the INS doesn't know enough about software to question whether
another person (U.S.) could learn about the code in a finite time
(I'd guess 1 year).

Two things I experienced: The INS made numerous paperwork processing
mistakes, misinterpreting the statements on the applications, etc.  At
one point they refused it for the 3rd time, and sent it back  -- it was
someone elses' application!  I finally enlisted the help of a local
congressman, and things were resolved within a week.  

Secondly, even with the intervention of the congressman, they pushed
very hard on the question of permanent residence.  They definitely do
not want applications for permanent residence to come via the temporary
work Visa.  Fortunately, this man doesn't want to stay more than 2 years
(the maximum). 

san@peora.UUCP (Sanjay Tikku) (05/01/85)

> I just left a company where I hired a foreign citizen (Holland) and
> brought him into the United States.  I found the process very time-
> consuming (5 months from offer to arrival) and an education in dealing
> with bureaucracy.  I too had to prove that he supplied expertise or
> ability not available from a United States citizen.  This wasn't difficult,
> 
> Secondly, even with the intervention of the congressman, they pushed
> very hard on the question of permanent residence.  They definitely do
> not want applications for permanent residence to come via the temporary
> work Visa.  Fortunately, this man doesn't want to stay more than 2 years
> (the maximum). 

  The number of people who are given permanent residence in the US through
  skilled jobs is dependent on many factors. The nature of job, the country
  of origin ( because of the quota system) etc. Needless to say that INS
  definitely discourages all such applications but the entire process is
  not haphazard. Also, there are a lot of skilled jobs where there is
  acute shortage of qualified manpower and in these jobs the INS gives
  permanent residence without too much botheration. An example of this is
  teaching jobs esp. Comp. Sc. .

  It is a lot of problem for a small company to hire a foreigner but the
  megacorps. employ immigration lawyers just for this purpose who take
  away the paperwork headache from the techinal/personnel depts.  Look
  at the big names on west coast, Intel, Nat'l Semiconductor etc. and they
  all do this.
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ped@mtuxo.UUCP (p.davidson) (05/02/85)

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	I am glad to see this on the net. I have
a question regarding Social Security Numbers.
	An Irish friend is visiting the country
for one year. He would like to get a Social Security
Number so that he can get a temporary job. Can
he get a number even though he is not a citizen ??