twh@bocar.UUCP (T Hu) (05/03/85)
A foreigner can apply S.S. card, but he/she has to have a good reason. Also, some S.S. #s are not allowed to work in the U.S..
rajeev@sftri.UUCP (S.Rajeev) (05/04/85)
> A foreigner can apply S.S. card, but he/she has to have > a good reason. Also, some S.S. #s are not allowed to work > in the U.S.. I believe that it is some combination of the middle numbers (i.e. xxx-33-xxxx) that identifes "not authorized for employment" Soc. Sec. numbers. It really isn't hard for a foreigner to get an SS number if they have any income in the US: the INS collaborates with the IRS to take Uncle Sam's share! -- ...ihnp4!attunix!rajeev -- usenet ihnp4!attunix!rajeev@BERKELEY -- arpanet Sri Rajeev, SF 1-342, ATT Info. Sys., Summit, NJ 07901. (201)-522-6330.
mgv@duke.UUCP (Marco G. Valtorta) (05/05/85)
I don't know whether this is typical, but at Duke University *all* foreign students are invited to apply for a Social Security Number at the beginning of their first academic year. A Social Security official comes to a University Office (actually, a large classroom) and obtains personal data from the foreign students. I don't remember whether the cards are immediately handed out, or whether they are mailed. I had never thought that having a Social Security number had anything to do with authorization to work in the U.S.A. In fact, I (and many other foreign students) cannot work during the Academic Year, unless we are paid through the University.
mgv@duke.UUCP (Marco G. Valtorta) (05/05/85)
The middle figures in my Social Security number are 33, and I cannot work. Sri Rajeev may be right.
dss00@amdahl.UUCP (dss00) (05/06/85)
S.S. #s can be had by anyone. All you need is a birth certificate
(for U.S. Citizens) or your passport (for foreigners).
There are no codes built into the SS # to distinguish between
those authorized to work and those that are not.
If you are not authorized to work (INS jurisdiction) the SS card
is usually stamped accordingly.
Without a SS # you can not open an interest bearing account
with any bank in the U.S. because IRS uses your SS # to make
sure you paid taxes.
Obtaining a SS # does not authorize any foreigner to seek employment,
that requires a permission from the INS.
In order to work, a foreigner needs both the things -
Permission from INS to work, and,
A SS #, so your employer can report your earnings to the IRS.
--
Deepak S. Sabnis ...!{ihnp4,hplabs,amd,nsc}!amdahl!dss00 (408) 746-6058
(Usual Disclaimer Here)mgv@duke.UUCP (Marco G. Valtorta) (05/07/85)
It is not true that you need a Social Security Number to open a bank account. I know of people who have opened interest-bearing accounts without a Social Security Number.
king@nmtvax.UUCP (05/07/85)
> The middle figures in my Social Security number are 33, and > I cannot work. Sri Rajeev may be right. On the other hand, a recent girlfriend of mine had 33 as her middle pair of numbers, and she is a U.S. citizen since birth and, naturally, has the right to work here. The SSN is not enough to determine the privilege of non-U.S. citizens to work in the U.S. Perhaps expatriots with 33 are not allowed to work, but I am not knowledgeable about such things. -- J. Brooke King in Socorro Funland ... ucbvax!unmvax!nmtvax!brooke Any thoughts or non-thoughts expressed here are not necessarily those of NMIMT.
ekrell@ucla-cs.UUCP (05/08/85)
Any foreign student is allowed to work for the University he/she is enrolled
in, even with an F-1 (student) Visa. I do and I had to apply for a SS number.
The SS card says "NOT VALID FOR EMPLOYMENT" above the number.
Therefore, having a SS number is required in order to work, but having a SS
number does not mean you are allowed to work...
--
Eduardo Krell UCLA Computer Science Department
ekrell@ucla-locus.arpa ..!{sdcrdcf,ihnp4,trwspp,ucbvax}!ucla-cs!ekrellmike@cadsys.UUCP (Michael Bruck) (05/10/85)
> Without a SS # you can not open an interest bearing account > with any bank in the U.S. because IRS uses your SS # to make > sure you paid taxes. I guess I was unaware of this when had a savings account at B of A for several years before obtaining a SS #. Actually, non-US residents may open an interest bearing account with a US bank, but they get a form from the Bank every year which they have to sign to prove that they are in fact non-residents. I have just gone through the procedure to get my "Green Card" (which happens to be blue), and apart from a two month delay when the INS lost my file, it all went very smoothly. From arrival in the US with a temporary work permit to my getting permanent residence, the elapsed time was slightly over a year. Michael Bruck
sigma@usl.UUCP (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) (05/15/85)
In article <5816@duke.UUCP> mgv@duke.UUCP (Marco G. Valtorta) writes: >The middle figures in my Social Security number are 33, and >I cannot work. Sri Rajeev may be right. You just lost. My ssn has a XXX-47-XXXX and I can not work (for the time being, that is :-)). As I mentioned in a previous note, there does not seem to be any correlation between ssn and work permit. Spiros