jbvb@ftp.UUCP (James Van Bokkelen) (09/26/87)
I'm pretty sure HP doesn't have one. Does anything exist in the public domain, or from another vendor? If respondents think there will be enough responses to annoy the list, send them to me, and I will summarize. spdcc!ftp!jbvb@harvard.harvard.edu James B. VanBokkelen FTP Software Inc. 501 Cambridge St. Cambridge, MA 02141 (617) 868-4878
blumenth@VAX.BBN.COM (Steve Blumenthal) (09/27/87)
James, Here is a message which I sent to the TCP/IP mailing list back in April about the BBN developed TCP/IP software for the HP3000. /Steve -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Received: from sri-nic.arpa by VAX.BBN.COM id a004313; 15 Apr 87 0:15 EST Received: from VAX.BBN.COM by SRI-NIC.ARPA with TCP; Tue 14 Apr 87 11:56:00-PDT Date: Tue, 14 Apr 87 13:48:20 EST From: Steve Blumenthal <blumenth@VAX> To: tcp-ip@sri-nic.ARPA Subject: Re: TCP on an HP 3000 BBN had a contract from DARPA to develop TCP/IP for the HP3000. Under that effort we also developed user and server TELNET and user FTP. This software required modifications to the HP3000 operating system and ran on an HP3000 Series 3 under MPE IV. We completed this effort in 1983 and delivered the software to White Sands Missle Range, where it was modified to run on an HP3000 Series 44 system under the MPE V/P operating system. Because we needed access to the HP3000 operating system sources, we had to sign a source license with HP. This agreement restricts our ability to redistribute this software except to U.S. government sites as directed by DARPA. Because BBN is not heavily involved with the development of software for the HP3000, we tried to give our software to HP to have them support it and track subsequent HP3000 operating system and hardware improvements. To date, HP has not taken us up on our offer. They may be in the process of developing TCP/IP for the HP3000 themselves, but at this point, we have no current contacts at HP. Steve Blumenthal BBN Laboratories
kumar@hpindda.HP.COM (Krishna Kumar) (09/28/87)
/ hpindda:comp.protocols.tcp-ip / jbvb@ftp.UUCP (James Van Bokkelen) / 6:04 pm Sep 25, 1987 / I'm pretty sure HP doesn't have one. Does anything exist in the public domain, or from another vendor? If respondents think there will be enough responses to annoy the list, send them to me, and I will summarize. spdcc!ftp!jbvb@harvard.harvard.edu James B. VanBokkelen FTP Software Inc. 501 Cambridge St. Cambridge, MA 02141 (617) 868-4878 ---------- DISCLAIMER: This is a statement based on my personal knowledge, to give you an idea of the TCP/IP products on the HP3000s and is NOT to be taken as an official statement of the Hewlett-Packard Company. I have been maintaining the TCP/IP product on the HP3000 for the last year and a half, so I would state with reasonable surety that HP does have a TCP/IP product for its 3000 family of computers!!! The first release of TCP/IP for the 3000 which is part of the Network Transport (NXPORT) product was in March '85. The transport supports HP's proprietary Networking Services (NS/3000). Note that the two are separate products and can be bought independently. The NXPORT product if bought by itself could still be used for the NetIPC (Inter Process Communication) interface that it provides. The Services would not be of any use if bought without NXPORT. This initial phase I release, was a IEEE 802.3 LAN only product. The second release of Transport for the HP3000 (Netxport II) came out in March '87 and is the phase II version of the Transport. This comprises of various functional enhancements to the Transport including support of point-to-point links, Transport level DDN compatibility and Transparent nodal access (store and forward) for both intranet and internet destinations (includes gateways and gateway halves). Netxport II is backward compatible with the phase I product. The following excerpts taken from the "NS3000/V Network Manager Reference Manual, Volume I", gives an idea of the capabilities of the networking products on the 3000s. "NS3000/V consists of two parts: NS3000/V Services and NS3000/V links. Network Services consist of software that enables users to access data, initiate processes, and exchange information among all systems on a network. NS3000/V links provide connections among systems (either HP3000s or personal computers) in the same network. To use NS3000/V Services, the systems must be connected by an NS3000/V network link. A variety of network link products are available with NS3000/V. The link product that connects individual systems in an NS3000/V network can be any of the following: o NS Point-to-Point Network Link for MPE-V based systems o Asynchronous SERIAL Network Link o StarLAN/3000 Link o ThinLAN/3000 Link (includes ThickLAN option for thick coaxial cable..) The link products listed above can all be used to connect HP3000s to one another The Asynchronous SERIAL Network Link, StarLAN/3000, and ThinLAN/3000 can connect HP 3000s to personal computers as well as to other HP3000s. The ThinLAN/3000 Link, including the ThickLAN option, can also connect HP3000s with HP 1000s and HP 9000s." Netxport II is bundled with hardware, NetIPC and driver software to form several network link products. The ARPA services FTP, TELENET and SMTP will be available for the 3000 around April '88. These services are being developed by The Wollongong Group. The X.25 link product for the HP3000 will be available around July '88. To my knowledge the BBN software was not used to develop any product. As the disclaimer states, this statement is my own, written to give you some information about the HP3000 networking products, and I (and NOT the Hewlett Packard Company) am responsible for any oversights/misstatements. Please contact the marketing dept. for official statements and information regarding the 3000 networking products. Best Regards, Krishna Kumar Software Development Engineer MS43 UX Information Networks Division Hewlett Packard 19420 Homestead Road Cupertino, CA 95014. (hpda!hpindda!kumar@hplabs.HP.COM) (408-447-2970)