craig@NNSC.NSF.NET.UUCP (11/20/87)
At CSNET we're experimenting with an idea which is close to this. The basic idea is that when an IP packet hits our gateway destined for a remote machine we make a phone call, establish the link, and keep it running as long as there is continued traffic. When the traffic stops, we shut down the line. There are lots of nasty little problems in this scheme: - The TCP SYN takes a huge hit for establishing the phone call. So the initial RTT estimate will be much too high. - Topology. That SYN probably can't take multiple hops in which the phone gets dialed. (We're using a star topology with gateway in the center). - How to maintain line quality. We know how variable long-distance connectivity is. Interestingly, keeping track of when the line is busy probably isn't a problem (we already had to handle that problem in X25Net). Also note that this system is designed to support more than IP. We want to be able to use more than IP over the interface (line control packets, ISO IP, XNS, etc). So we had to put leaders in. Finally, address mapping is fixed. Each address is assigned, and we do a deterministic IP address to phone # mapping to do the phone call. We then log in at the remote end, and start up the line protocol. Craig
gnu@hoptoad.UUCP (11/20/87)
UC Davis was doing a summer project with dialup slip. Their software is available on ucdavis.ucdavis.edu in the "pub/dialslip" directory, as I recall (don't you hate it how NOBODY gives a full and correct path for stuff available by anonymous ftp?). I haven't tried any of it yet. John Here's the README from ucdavis: This directory contains the first distribution of software used at UC Davis for dialin SLIP connections for the UCD Network. The complete system is a combination of patches for 4.3bsd and the CMU/IP software, plus new software for the dialin capability. The software comes in five tar files. Here is a description of what is in each tar file. 1. tiocgetu.tar This file contains patches and a new function for the 4.3bsd IO. A problem existed with 4.3 in the linkage of a SLIP interface and the actual device. The problem was this: The normal procedure to set up a SLIP was to ifconfig the interface to the desired parameters then slattach the device to this interface, BUT the slattach just grabs the first available interface which may or may not be the one that you just ifconfig'ed. This really becomes a problem when multiple SLIPs are comming and going randomly. To solve this problem, a patch was added to slattach to return the interface to which the device was connected. The returned interface can then be ifconfig'ed AFTER slattach has been connected to it. This makes sure that the associated device and interface are coordinated. To make things even easier, there is a new function included in this tar that does the the whole process, slattach and ifconfig, in one call. 2. dialslip.tar This file contains the software necessary to manage the dialin SLIP connections. The procedure for establishing a SLIP connection is to logon to the 4.3 computer and enter the slip command. After the command has been issued, the line becomes a SLIP connection. Disconnection is accomplished when the serial connection is lost (no carrier detect) and the line is then reset to a normal login line. Address assignment and security is provided by a file that associates an IP address with the usercode. A connection for a given IP address can only be made from the usercode to which that address is assigned in the configuration file. Of course the computer dialing in must also be configured for this address. The software also maintains a file of current connections that can be displayed to see wht SLIP connections are currently logged in. This file is also used by the system to make sure that the IP address is not already connected before making a new connection. If a person logs in on the same usercode twice at the same time, only the first SLIP connection will succeed. NOTE: the patches in tiocgetu.tar must be installed before the software in this tar will work. 3. cmuslip.tar These are patches to the CMU/IP software that do two things. One, makes the com port on the pc setable from the CUSTOM program, and two, fixes a bug that would briefly drop DTR on the com port during a SLIP connection. (for us that caused immediate disconnection :-}) 4. sterm.tar This is the CMU/IP terminal program with a script capability added. The script can be setup to allow connection to the network by automatically sending the sequence needed to dial the modem, logon, and send commands to connect to SLIP. The script can also wait for given strings to return to allow testing, timing out, and branching depending on what response is returned. 5. cmumakes.tar This file contains a new set of MAKE files for the CMU/IP software that are better (or at least different) than the standard ones. This tar also contains a new tarread program that allows extraction so subsets of the files in a tar file. The abbreviated IP packet software working but still has a couple of bugs we want to get out before releasing it. It should be ready in another week or so, but we wanted to make this available for those that want to get started. Russell Hobby Data Communications Manager U. C. Davis Computing Services BITNET: RDHOBBY@UCDAVIS Davis Ca 95616 UUCP: ...!ucbvax!ucdavis!rdhobby (916) 752-0236 INTERNET: rdhobby@ucdavis.edu -- {pyramid,ptsfa,amdahl,sun,ihnp4}!hoptoad!gnu gnu@toad.com Love your country but never trust its government. -- from a hand-painted road sign in central Pennsylvania
andrew@mitisft.UUCP (11/21/87)
in article <8711192329.AA03145@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, craig@NNSC.NSF.NET (Craig Partridge) says: > > > At CSNET we're experimenting with an idea which is close to this. > > The basic idea is that when an IP packet hits our gateway destined > for a remote machine we make a phone call, establish the link, and > keep it running as long as there is continued traffic. When the > traffic stops, we shut down the line. > We've had dial-up SLIP running for over a year internally here at Convergent, initially on a more-or-less straight 4.3 port and currently on a Streams port. It works, basically, by having a deamon which is woken up when the routing code chooses a "dialed" (more generally, switched) route. It then calls into a bunch of UUCP code to establish the connection, and logs in to an account which runs the daemon in "server mode". The "client" then informs the "server" of who he is (ascii), his numeric address, and what he thinks the server's numeric address is. The server checks his host and authentication files, they synchronize and slattach, and the deferred packets are sent. After that its peer-peer, until a timeout occurs with active TCP or carrier loss. I still consider this to be in the experimental phase, primarily in the routing area. Currently the system uses the "gateway" model; no net number is assigned to the link itself, an each system sort of thinks it has an interface on the nets connected to the remote. The inital connection protocol is pretty crude -- just an exchange of cute little text messages. Eventually I'd like to add some simple error checking, though the problems there have been minimal so far. We use it over our PBX to comminiacte between biuldings here regularly, at 19200 baud. Andrew Knutsen (408) 435-3623 I'm also planning on testing with the new high speed modems.