kopaz@rdlvax.RDL.COM (John 'Echo' Kopaz) (01/19/88)
prelude: i know very little about nets and stuff (enough to be dangerous).... question: what would be required (hw/sw) to connect a token ring of pc's to an ethernet of suns, vaxen, and an alliant? i want to be able to rlogin from the pc's and/or submit jobs to mdqs. i would also like to to stick to tcp/ip as transfer/internet protocols on the token ring (if i can...). query: can pc-nfs do this??? ( it would be nice to have all systems under nfs.....) background: we are running bsd4.3 on the vax, the current sun release, and a bsd4.2 derivative on the alliant ( all these under nfs ). we are running desk view on the pc's ( also trying other multitasking dos ). plead: where would i look to gain knowlage in this area? texts, papers, etc... ( taking the prelude into concideration ) respond: via email please ( i don't have time to read the news all the time.:-) disclamer: the spelling is mine. signature:
kopaz@rdlvax.RDL.COM (John 'Echo' Kopaz) (01/19/88)
( sorry about the multiple post. this one includes my .sig....)
prelude:	i know very little about nets and stuff 
		(enough to be dangerous)....
question:	what would be required (hw/sw) to connect a token ring of pc's 
		to an ethernet of suns, vaxen, and an alliant?  i want to be 
		able to rlogin from the pc's and/or submit jobs to mdqs.  i 
		would also like to to stick to tcp/ip as transfer/internet 
		protocols on the token ring (if i can...).
query:		can pc-nfs do this???  ( it would be nice to have all systems
		under nfs.....)
background:	we are running bsd4.3 on the vax, the current sun release, and 
		a bsd4.2 derivative  on the alliant ( all these under nfs ).  
		we are running desk view on the pc's ( also trying other 
		multitasking dos ).
plead:		where would i look to gain knowlage in this area?  
		texts, papers, etc...  ( taking the prelude into concideration )
respond:	via email please  ( i don't have time to read the news all the
		time.:-)
disclamer:	the spelling is mine.
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uucp : ...!{psivax,csun,sdcrdcf,ttidca}!rdlvax!kopaz   culver city, ca 90320german@UXC.CSO.UIUC.EDU (Gregory German) (01/20/88)
I am currently un-aware of any PC NFS products that would work with the
4Mbs Token Ring.  If there is such a product please let me know.
I a currently using the IBM TCP/IP for the PC to TELNET, FTP, etc to
from other TCP/IP machines on our network.  The IBM software includes
an IP gateway between Token Ring, IBM PC Network (new cards) and ethernet.
The IBM software is part of Program Number 5798-FAL.  It has a fair number of
TCP/IP based programs which I will not detail here.  The TELNET emulates an
h19u ascii terminal or uses tn3270 if talking to a VM host.  TFTP and FTP
are available, though there is no server mode for FTP.  There are also 
several commands to deal with mail from the PC that I have not played with,
but they seem based on the Rand Mail Handler as far as the user interface
is concerned and use SMTP to POP server.
Though I haven't tried it you could probably also gateway with a Proteon
p4200 with both 4Mbs token ring and ethernet.
I belive FTP has suport for TCP/IP on the token ring, though I am uncertain
what they recomend at the gateway between token ring and ethernet.
Hope this helps some,
         Greg German (german@uxc.CSO.UIUC.EDU) (217-333-8293)
US Mail: Univ of Illinois, CSO, 1304 W Springfield Ave, Urbana, IL  61801
Office:  181 Digital Computer Lab.JBVB@AI.AI.MIT.EDU ("James B. VanBokkelen") (01/20/88)
We do indeed have products for token rings: One for the IBM TOKREUI software interface (which is emulated by some other vendors), and one for the Proteon P1340/1344 card in native mode. As of this moment, the TOKREUI version supports source-routing on bridged rings, the P1340 doesn't yet. We don't include an NFS, but we do have Telnets (including TN3270), Rlogins, SMTP mail (no POP), FTP client & server, TFTP client/server, LPR, REXEC, RSH, RCP, Finger, etc. Our software can use any IP router that has an interface for 802.5, including P4200s, IBM software, or RTs with 4BSD and multiple interfaces. James VanBokkelen FTP Software Inc.