timk@NCSA.UIUC.EDU (Tim Krauskopf) (04/02/88)
To clear some points about this comment: Q: How can the IBM PC's and Mac SEs also do the rlogin/telnet/ftp,etc., action with either of the UNIX VAX or VMS uVAX? How should be go about doing this? Money is no object but of course a few hundred feet above the ground is our limit (read $50,000 to $150,00 is my anticipated budget :-). Feel free to share your expreriences and flights of fancy. I'm all ears! A: You can fully equip an IBM-PC with an Ethernet card and TCP software for less than $500 dollars. You can probably do it for less than $300 if you rely on Public Domain software and the cheaper Ethernet cards. We tend towards the Micom 5210 cards these days. For Macintoshes, there is no good way for the non-MAC-II's to hold an Ethernet card. However, you can run TCP/IP nicely by using an Appletalk->Ethernet gateway. Specifically, the Kinetics FastPath (less than $2000) which will serve an entire Appletalk net. We use this in conjunction with the public domain NCSA telnet. You can get Ethernet cards for the MAC-II's and rumor has it for the SE, but I have no experience with this as the FastPath box is more economical when you have more than one or two Macs to hook up. Kinetics sells working, available for many months, Ethernet devices for: Mac SE internal board (Etherport SE) external Ethernet (EtherSC) - hooks up to Mac SCSI port gateway from AppleTalk/Ethernet - (FastPath) I consider these to be "good" ways for non-Mac II's to Ethernet - they are all running in my building. Kinetics, Apple and 3COM all sell Mac II Ethernet boards. NCSA Telnet supports all of these and also comes in a PC version. Anon FTP from ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu (128.174.20.50). Tony Michel (from different posting) will be happy to find out that his version of NCSA Telnet for the Mac (1.12 - 6/87) was updated in November (2.1 - 11/87) and 2.2 will be out this summer. Yes tn3270 but no user FTP yet. Tim Krauskopf timk@ncsa.uiuc.edu (ARPA) National Center for Supercomputing Applications 14013@ncsavmsa (BITNET) University of Illinois