craig@NNSC.NSF.NET (Craig Partridge) (04/26/88)
Dennis, I suspect you can't permit a refund mechanism.... Take the case of the 14 of 15 megabytes transferred. If I know that aborting a connection before all the data requested has been passed then I can happily set up schemes with my friends to pad all FTPable files with an extra few megabytes of junk. Then we transfer our data, abort while the junk is being transferred, and apply for a refund. Voila, free networking.... I think the implication of this is that you'd have to certify programs as not able to abuse the charging scheme this way before you permitted a refund mechanism. Craig
perry@MCL.UNISYS.COM (Dennis Perry) (04/27/88)
Craig, you are right about the certification of bad transfers. Messages from some trusted network component might satisfy such a requirement. I know this sounds messy, but even the telephone system sort of relys upon my work to say the a call was disconnected during use and I get a full refund, even if I only call back and say goodbye and pay only the minimum charge. Such are the issues of charging for useage. dennis
CERF@A.ISI.EDU (04/27/88)
At MCI, we had the policy of refunding charges if users called with complaints - both for the telephone charges and for MCI Mail. If, however, a user had a track record of claiming refunds regularly, we looked a lot more closely and sometimes revoked the user's subscription to service. Its generally good business to believe customers but, like the Russian saying quoted by Reagan: Trust but Verify. Vint
braden@VENERA.ISI.EDU (04/28/88)
Craig, you are right about the certification of bad transfers. Messages from some trusted network component might satisfy such a requirement. I know this sounds messy, but even the telephone system sort of relys upon my work to say the a call was disconnected during use and I get a full refund, even if I only call back and say goodbye and pay only the minimum charge. Such are the issues of charging for useage. dennis Dennis, The solution is to implement the FTP protocol, including FTP Restart! The user DID transfer most of the bytes... why should we return his money? Why create a hard problem when there is a trivial solution? Bob Braden