[comp.protocols.tcp-ip] OSI CLNS and the future of networking

smart@ditmela.oz (Robert Smart) (05/20/88)

Helpppp! I am trying to understand where networking is going. I 
suspect I'm not the only one. As an investigative measure I present 
a guess based largely on rumour. Will the people who know please 
comment.

The OSI CLNS (ConnectionLess Network Service) is basically just 
DoD's IP with minor changes (like a bigger address field). The 
objective is obviously to replace IP with CLNS. Presumably a subset 
of CLNS addresses is reserved for (and in simple arithmetic relation 
to) IP addresses. This will allow a mix of CLNS and IP as long as 
the backbone is CLNS. We can imagine that during the cutover there 
will be arrangements like this:

        IP                 CLNS                 IP
    IP1----IP/CLNS-gateway------IP/CLNS-gateway----IP2

Where IP1 and IP2 are ethernets still using IP. They shouldn't see 
any change talking to each other. The question then is how they will 
talk to people who have made the cutover. Presumably the gateways 
will have to have tables (presumably built dynamically by querying 
relevant servers) of CLNS to IP addresses: CLNS hosts which wish to 
be able to talk to IP hosts will have to have their IP-equivalent 
address registered so the gateway has a replacement IP address to 
use for that CLNS address when packets enter the IP world (and 
contrari-wise). Those gateways will need fast processors in them.

If CLNS hosts are going to talk to IP hosts (and this is absolutely 
essential if the whole thing is going to get off the ground) then 
obviously the first middle level protocols to be implemented will be 
TCP/CLNS and UDP/CLNS, and the associated application level 
protocols. This should be a trivial modification of existing TCP/IP 
and UDP/IP code. 

The nice thing about going to CLNS is that you can then start 
running other high level protocols. In particular CLNS/TP4 will give 
access to the OSI higher level protocols [I know the X.400 standard 
says that it must run only over TP0 and only over X.25 but this is 
just a pathetic attempt by the PTTs to force people to use X.25. No
sensible implementations will enforce this restriction. DECs 
implementation (MRX) currently allows TP4 over ethernet].

The next interesting thing is that DEC says DECNET Phase V will work 
over CLNS. So presumably VAXes (and other computers) on the CLNS 
Internet will be able to talk DECNET to each other.

That's all very well, but I would like to understand how CLNS over 
X.25 coexists with the existing CONS (ConnectionOriented Network 
Service) over X.25. I guess they just use different Subaddress or 
Protocol-id or Call User Data. I am also not sure how CLNS over
802.3 fits in with existing OSI over 802.3. Presumably the packets
will have CLNS sender and destination addresses in them (the new IP
addresses). That certainly isn't what is in them now. 

Bob Smart, CSIRO Division of Information Technology, Australia