craig@NNSC.NSF.NET (Craig Partridge) (05/13/88)
IEEE Computer has an ad by Springer-Verlag which beyond listing Davidson's book, also mentions The Complete Guide to TCP/IP Protocol Suite by Don Huntington and George Cohn due out in 1988. I don't know either author and they aren't in the NIC table. Anyone heard anything about this book? Craig
LYNCH@A.ISI.EDU (Dan Lynch) (05/15/88)
The supposed "Complete Guide to TCP/IP ..." will not be out this spring. I talked to one of the purported authors about it this week and he said that he had to back out of th eproject because of overload, but that the project was still being pursued. I did'nt get a date, but my reading is summer/fall. All these books on TCP/IP are wonderful. Finally we have something(s) to give to people that expalins what we have been doing for the past decade. I have reviewed all three extant books and each has it merits and faults. I may as well go on record, so to speak, about my views on them to help others decide which to get for which purpose. These views are my own (who else???). Comer's book is extremely thorough on the lower layers (up through TCP). It gives an outstanding exposition of th eneed for internetting and addresses the common and ugly cases in a clear style. An excellent book for the technically inclined. This book is weak on the application protocols.It explains them, but does not delve very deeply into them. Stalling's book is very thorough on the application layer protocols and not very strong on the lower layers. I think of it as trying to explain Ip and TCP from an ISO viewpoint. While technically clean, it lacks motivation. Davidson's book is good material to give to a marketing person. It explains al the terms, much of the history, and does not dig too deeply. It is a short book (around 100 pages) and is essentially an annotated glossary. So, all three books have their place. Dan -------
philipp@LARRY.MCRCIM.MCGILL.EDU (Philip A. Prindeville) (05/17/88)
Quick thought (often the deadliest): why not divide Doug's book into two volumes (chapters 1-16, and 17-$)? Then he would not be constrained by length or cost (more pages == higher cost). It seems likely that some people would probably only need one of the two, anyway. -Philip
LYNCH@A.ISI.EDU (Dan Lynch) (05/20/88)
Philip, Unfortunately splitting the book in half does not mean dropping the price accordingly... Probably would only be able to drop the two halves to the high 20s. Dan -------
gcf@actnyc.UUCP (Gordon Fitch) (05/28/88)
I'd like to get the full titles, etc., of the books that were mentioned. Unfortunately the original articles have expired here and I've only been able to read some of the follow-ups. -- Gordon Fitch (...!uunet!actnyc!gcf)
chuck@excelan.UUCP (Chuck Kollars) (06/02/88)
In article <925@actnyc.UUCP> gcf@actnyc.UUCP (Gordon Fitch) writes: >I'd like to get the full titles, etc., of the [TCP/IP] books ... An Introduction to TCP/IP by John Davidson Springer-Verlag, 1988 - ISBN# 0-387-96651-X (also 3-540-96651-X) paperback, over 100 pages - suggested retail price $24.95 Handbook of Computer Communications Standards Volume 3, Department of Defense (DOD) Protocol Standards by William Stallings Macmillan, 1988 - ISBN# 0-02-948072-8 hardbound, over 200 pages - suggested retail price $34.95 Internetworking With TCP/IP Principles, Protocols, and Architecture by Douglas Comer Prentice Hall, 1988 - ISBN# 0-13-470154-2 hardbound, almost 400 pages - suggested retail price $36.00 -- Chuck Kollars, Excelan, Inc. mtxinu!excelan!chuck@ucbvax.Berkeley.COM (chuck@excelan.UUCP) ...!{mtxinu,leadsv,cae780}!excelan!chuck
aledm@cvaxa.sussex.ac.uk (Aled Morris) (06/27/88)
I just picked up a copy of the Comer book ("Internetworking with TCP/IP"), I would recommend it (there---I just did! :-) It is available in the UK (and presumably the rest of the world apart from the US, Mexico and Canada) in Prentice-Hall's "International Editions" series (with a red cover to match Tanenbam's networks and Minix books, etc etc) It's ISBN is 0-13-470188-7, and I paid #18.95 (thats pounds sterling). Aled Morris systems programmer Janet/Arpa: aledm@uk.ac.sussex.cvaxa | School of Cognitive Science uucp: ..!mcvax!ukc!cvaxa!aledm | University of Sussex talk: +44-(0)273-606755 e2372 | Falmer, Brighton, England "I'm living in the future/I feel wonderful/I'm tipping over backwards... I'm so ambitious/I'm looking back/I'm running a race and you're the book I read"