RAD@VAX01.AMS.COM (RichDeJordy@SRI-NIC.ARPA, x295) (07/19/88)
I hope someone on this list can help me. I have a user who is attempting to reach someone by electronic mail. The person in question is on ACSnet and we are on Arpanet. The address which we were given is user@MONCSBRUCE.OZ (ACSNET) I've tried various stategies to send mail to this host. My mailer won't accept this as is. After searching through variou header files, I eventually tried routing it through uu.net, but received no reply, so I assume it never got there. Can anyone tell my is there is a gateway or something out there that will route this for me? (Oh yes, I tried all permutations of .oz and .au that I could think of as well, still having my mailer tell me that they were unknown hosts.) Thanks in advance, Richard DeJordy Systems Programmer American Mathematical Society Post Office Box 6248 Providence, RI 02104 (401) 272-9500 RAD@MATH.AMS.COM on the Internet -------
westine@VENERA.ISI.EDU (Ann Westine) (07/20/88)
>I have a user who is attempting to reach someone by electronic mail. The >person in question is on ACSnet and we are on Arpanet. The address >which we were given is user@MONCSBRUCE.OZ (ACSNET) >I've tried various stategies to send mail to this host. My mailer won't >accept this as is. After searching through variou header files, I eventually >tried routing it through uu.net, but received no reply, so I assume it never >got there. Can anyone tell my is there is a gateway or something out there >that will route this for me? Richard, ACSNET is an Australian Network. Try one of the following paths: munnari.oz.au!moncsbruce.ua.oz!username@SEISMO.CSS.GOV munnari.oz.au!moncsbruce.ua.oz!username@UUNET.UU.NET Ann
kre@munnari.oz (Robert Elz) (07/21/88)
In article <8807191731.AA07235@venera.isi.edu>, westine@VENERA.ISI.EDU (Ann Westine) writes: > ACSNET is an Australian Network. Try one of the following paths: > > munnari.oz.au!moncsbruce.ua.oz!username@SEISMO.CSS.GOV > munnari.oz.au!moncsbruce.ua.oz!username@UUNET.UU.NET Please don't... First, seismo no longer implements a gateway to anywhere, and should no longer be used by anyone not communicating with a user at the CSS. Second, "moncsbruce.ua.oz" would place "moncsbruce" in the University of Adelaide, which it isn't, just "moncsbruce.oz", or "moncsbruce.monash.oz" works fine. Third, while that revolting mixture of !'s and @'s is actually what a return address looks like when Australian mail is seen on the internet, I would never recommend it to anyone. If you have a mailer that doesn't handle nameserver MX records, then you should use username%moncsbruce.oz.au@uunet.uu.net in the period while you are waiting for your mailer upgrade. Then, just use username@moncsbruce.oz.au Robert Elz postmaster@munnari.oz.au
dave@stcns3.stc.oz (Dave Horsfall) (07/22/88)
In article <8807191731.AA07235@venera.isi.edu> westine@VENERA.ISI.EDU (Ann Westine) writes: > >>I have a user who is attempting to reach someone by electronic mail. The >>person in question is on ACSnet and we are on Arpanet. The address >>which we were given is user@MONCSBRUCE.OZ (ACSNET) > > >Richard, > >ACSNET is an Australian Network. Try one of the following paths: > > munnari.oz.au!moncsbruce.ua.oz!username@SEISMO.CSS.GOV > munnari.oz.au!moncsbruce.ua.oz!username@UUNET.UU.NET > >Ann Close, but not close enough. SEISMO stopped working ages ago, and that "ua" (au mispelt?) could send it via the University of Adelaide... Try one of the following, depending on whether you bang or domain (capitals not necessary): user%moncsbruce.OZ.AU@uunet.UU.NET, ...munnari!moncsbruce.OZ.AU!user A fairly recent issue of CACM ("Notable Computer Networks") had an article on it, but I think it still mentioned SEISMO. Now, watch me get flamed by the local ACSnet "experts" ... -- Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU), Alcatel-STC Australia, dave@stcns3.stc.oz dave%stcns3.stc.OZ.AU@uunet.UU.NET, ...munnari!stcns3.stc.OZ.AU!dave WordStar 4 - The thinking person's word processor
jsq@longway.TIC.COM (John S. Quarterman) (07/25/88)
In article <644@stcns3.stc.oz> dave@stcns3.stc.oz (Dave Horsfall) writes: >A fairly recent issue of CACM ("Notable Computer Networks") had an article >on it, but I think it still mentioned SEISMO. Quarterman, John S. and Hoskins, Josiah C., "Notable Computer Networks," Communications of the ACM, Volume 29, no. 10, pp. 932-971, Association for Computing Machinery, New York, October 1986. Seismo ceased being a gateway in September 1987, so, yes, NCN still mentioned it. The examples you gave using UUNET will probably work. Machines that understand MX records shouldn't have to indirect, though, since OZ.AU is a legitimate domain with servers and a forwarder. I'm near completion of a book that will be an update and expansion of the article: John S. Quarterman, The Matrix: Computer Networks and Conferencing Systems Worldwide, Digital Press, 1988. For example, I'm working on the ACSnet section now, with its developers. Suggestions, comments, etc., welcome. John S. Quarterman tel: +1-512-320-9031 Texas Internet Consulting fax: +1-512-320-5821 701 Brazos, Suite 500 jsq@longway.tic.com Austin, TX 78701-3243 uunet!longway!jsq U.S.A. DASnet: [DET1TC]jsq CompuServe: 76176,664 PS: If you can't reach jsq@longway.tic.com, jsq@cs.utexas.edu should work.
mark@cbnews.ATT.COM (Mark Horton) (08/03/88)
In article <644@stcns3.stc.oz> dave@stcns3.stc.oz (Dave Horsfall) writes: >Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU), Alcatel-STC Australia, dave@stcns3.stc.oz What I don't understand is why some Australians advertise their addresses as dave@stcns3.stc.oz, as shown in the From: line and the signature of the referenced article. .oz is NOT an official domain, while .oz.au IS. The UUCP map does list .oz and knows how to get to it. This puts .oz up there with the other "semi-official" domains like .uucp, .bitnet, .cdn, and the like. People routing via UUCP can get to them, but people using some other incarnation of the domain system, especially TCP/IP, cannot. Posting to a worldwide computer network with an incomplete domain name is like giving your phone number and forgetting the country code. It might work locally, but it doesn't necessarily work in some other country. Please encourage other Australians to use the full name .oz.au on their domain style addresses, unless they are really sure that the context is specific to ACSNET. >dave%stcns3.stc.OZ.AU@uunet.UU.NET, ...munnari!stcns3.stc.OZ.AU!dave This stuff looks fine, although both are kludges to get around various limitations when you're trying to say dave@stcns3.stc.OZ.AU . If this form doesn't work, then something is broken somewhere (or maybe the person you're sending to just doesn't answer their mail.) Mark