geoff@eagle_snax.UUCP ( R.H. coast near the top) (09/10/88)
From last week's issue of MacWEEK, in an article discussing Apple's forthcoming TCP/IP products: "Apple's interest in TCP/IP will legitimize the protocol in much the same manner that A/UX legitimized UNIX," said Vint Cerf, Vice President of ... a nonprofit thinktank in Reston VA. Here at Sun ECD we all stood aghast at the thought we had been working with illegitimate protocols. We should all be ashamed at ourselves.... (I blame it all on MAP, actually - we all need to cultivate writing at 7th grade level, so that people will understand and legitimize our work. :-) Of course Vint's comment was (presumably) intended as a way of poking fun at that section of the Apple community who seem to believe that A/UX did indeed "legitimize Unix." But how did he manage to keep a straight face when he said it? -- Geoff Arnold, Sun Microsystems Inc.+------------------------------------------+ PC Distrib. Sys. (home of PC-NFS) |If you do nothing, you will automatically | UUCP:{hplabs,decwrl...}!sun!garnold|receive our Disclaimer of the Month choice| ARPA:geoff@sun.com +------------------------------------------+
aad@stpstn.UUCP (Anthony A. Datri) (09/13/88)
In article <348@eagle_snax.UUCP> geoff@eagle_snax.UUCP ( R.H. coast near the top) writes: > "Apple's interest in TCP/IP will legitimize the protocol in much > the same manner that A/UX legitimized UNIX," said Vint Cerf, > Vice President of ... a nonprofit thinktank in Reston VA. This is remarkably similar to the DG ad described in "Soul of a New Machine" which said something like "IBM says its entry into the minicomputer market will legitimize it. The bastards say 'Welcome.'", which I howled over. Of course, to this day, the best use I've seen for an IBM mini is the Series/1 at CMU's ITC that works the badge readers and the Coke machine. Saying that A/UX legitimized unix would be like saying that our sun ipc board legitimized msdos..... -- @disclaimer(Any concepts or opinions above are entirely mine, not those of my employer, my GIGI, or my 11/34) beak is beak is not Anthony A. Datri,SysAdmin,StepstoneCorporation,stpstn!aad
CERF@A.ISI.EDU (09/15/88)
Dear Aghast, I can't figure out what I could have said that led the reporter to misquote me that way. Either I said "lobotomize" or I was trying to say that APPLE's adoption of A/UX and TCP/IP legitimizes APPLE (!) - in the sense that it makes APPLE's machines a part of a larger and already communicating community. Vint
CERF@A.ISI.EDU (09/27/88)
What the reporter didn't mention is that I qualified the remark by saying the the adoption of UNIX and TCP/IP by Apple legitimized these tools for a community which had not been exposed to them before. Obviously, TCP/IP and UNIX were considered not only legitimate but even de rigeur by the community that developed and propagated them. Vint Cerf