[comp.protocols.tcp-ip] TCP/IP for IBMs?

ccruss@deneb.ucdavis.edu (0059;0000000000;230;9999;98;) (10/27/88)

I  have been requested to come up  with solutions to connect some campus 
IBM  machines to our campus TCP/IP network.  The models are a System 36, 
an 4181 and a 9370. The System 36 and the 9370 are currently stand-alone 
but  would perfer to connect to an ethernet. The 4381 is on an IBM Token 
Ring with a bunch of PCs, so the preference there is to do TCP/IP on the 
token  ring. I can connect the token ring to the campus network with a a 
Proteon router, but can the 4381 talk TCP/IP on the token ring? 

What  has been  done at  other sites?  I hear  that IBM has solutions to 
these  problems,  but  I  also  hear  the  the  solutions  are messy and 
expensive. 

The  location with  the token  ring would  also like  the PCs to use the 
campus  network. Has anyone written a IBM  token ring adapter (real IBM) 
driver for PD software like NCSA Telnet? 

Thanks,
Russ
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ron@ron.rutgers.edu (Ron Natalie) (10/28/88)

The 4381 and the 9370 can both talk to the Token Ring with an 8232 which
is not so hot, but it is what IBM has right now.  The 8232 is a second
generation of a DACU only this time rather than having something useful
like a UNIBUS, it's an industrial channel attached IBM-PC.  If you could
deal with plugging the machines into Ethernet, BusTech makes a much cheaper
and better performing channel attached Ethernet controller.  The 9370 can
also be attached to the network without the 8232 because there are integral
lan interface cards available.

The Series 3X (and the AS/400) are going to be more interesting.  I don't
think IBM has gotten that far in pushing TCP/IP.  Mostly at the last SHARE
IBM was tripping over themselves insisting that their support of TCP/IP and
UNIX was not an indication that these would supplant SNA and SAA respectively.

-Ron