[comp.protocols.tcp-ip] Bfly redirect problem

tsmith@USNA.MIL ("Timothy G. Smith ", Systems Staff) (01/14/89)

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I have been noticing the alleged massive redirects problem(s) for the
last few days and had not managed to find Mike Brescia's "smoking gun"
until a few minutes ago...

I have been poking around with brl's latest version of ping and have
come across some strange behavior.

Take alook at the ouput from pinging several hosts below. In
particuliar note the addresses we are being redirected to 

(New addr:0x1100141a)

this looks to me like someone up at brl decided to
output 26.20.0.17 (MCLEAN-DCEC-MB.DDN.MIL) in backwards hex notation.

Likewise

(New addr:0x6800151a) corresponds to 26.21.0.104 (RESTON-DCEC-MB.DDN.MIL).

It looks to me like the bflys are redirecting us back and forth from
one to the other. Anyone agree? Anyone else got any data to compare?
Anyone got a solution?

thanks,
	Tim Smith -[hp]ostmaster and general network person
US mail:ECSD/CADIG mailstop: 11G	E-mail:
	US Naval Academy		internet:tsmith@USNA.MIL
	Annapolis, MD 21402			 tsmith@USNA.NAVY.MIL (RSN)
MaBell :(301)267-4413			uucp	:...!uunet!usna!tsmith
Autovon:     281-4413


PING 129.97.129.72 (129.97.129.72): 56 data bytes
36 bytes from MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL (26.20.0.17): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x6800151a)
Vr HL TOS  Len   ID Flg  off TTL Pro  cks      Src      Dst Data
4  5  00 5400 880f   0 0000  fe  01 0a90 1a070066 81618148
64 bytes from 129.97.129.72: icmp_seq=0 time=1084 ms
36 bytes from RESTON-DCEC-MB.DDN.MIL (26.21.0.104): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x1100141a)
Vr HL TOS  Len   ID Flg  off TTL Pro  cks      Src      Dst Data
4  5  00 5400 8e0f   0 0000  fe  01 0490 1a070066 81618148
36 bytes from MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL (26.20.0.17): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x6800151a)
Vr HL TOS  Len   ID Flg  off TTL Pro  cks      Src      Dst Data
4  5  00 5400 940f   0 0000  fe  01 fe8f 1a070066 81618148
64 bytes from 129.97.129.72: icmp_seq=1 time=2300 ms
36 bytes from RESTON-DCEC-MB.DDN.MIL (26.21.0.104): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x1100141a)
Vr HL TOS  Len   ID Flg  off TTL Pro  cks      Src      Dst Data
4  5  00 5400 9a0f   0 0000  fe  01 f88f 1a070066 81618148
64 bytes from 129.97.129.72: icmp_seq=2 time=1572 ms
36 bytes from MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL (26.20.0.17): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x6800151a)
Vr HL TOS  Len   ID Flg  off TTL Pro  cks      Src      Dst Data
4  5  00 5400 a10f   0 0000  fe  01 f18f 1a070066 81618148
64 bytes from 129.97.129.72: icmp_seq=3 time=2127 ms
64 bytes from 129.97.129.72: icmp_seq=4 time=1174 ms
36 bytes from RESTON-DCEC-MB.DDN.MIL (26.21.0.104): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x1100141a)
Vr HL TOS  Len   ID Flg  off TTL Pro  cks      Src      Dst Data
4  5  00 5400 a60f   0 0000  fe  01 ec8f 1a070066 81618148
64 bytes from 129.97.129.72: icmp_seq=5 time=915 ms
36 bytes from MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL (26.20.0.17): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x6800151a)
Vr HL TOS  Len   ID Flg  off TTL Pro  cks      Src      Dst Data
4  5  00 5400 ae0f   0 0000  fe  01 e48f 1a070066 81618148
^C36 bytes from RESTON-DCEC-MB.DDN.MIL (26.21.0.104): Destination Net Unreachable
----129.97.129.72 PING Statistics----
7 packets transmitted, 6 packets received, 14% packet loss
round-trip (ms)  min/avg/max = 915/1528/2300



PING neat.ai.toronto.edu (128.100.1.65): 56 data bytes
36 bytes from RESTON-DCEC-MB.DDN.MIL (26.21.0.104): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x1100141a)
Vr HL TOS  Len   ID Flg  off TTL Pro  cks      Src      Dst Data
 4  5  00 5400 3526   0 0000  fe  01 61fa 1a070066 80640141 
64 bytes from 128.100.1.65: icmp_seq=0 time=863 ms
36 bytes from MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL (26.20.0.17): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x6800151a)
Vr HL TOS  Len   ID Flg  off TTL Pro  cks      Src      Dst Data
 4  5  00 5400 3826   0 0000  fe  01 5efa 1a070066 80640141 
64 bytes from 128.100.1.65: icmp_seq=1 time=897 ms
36 bytes from RESTON-DCEC-MB.DDN.MIL (26.21.0.104): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x1100141a)
Vr HL TOS  Len   ID Flg  off TTL Pro  cks      Src      Dst Data
 4  5  00 5400 3b26   0 0000  fe  01 5bfa 1a070066 80640141 
64 bytes from 128.100.1.65: icmp_seq=2 time=890 ms
36 bytes from MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL (26.20.0.17): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x6800151a)
Vr HL TOS  Len   ID Flg  off TTL Pro  cks      Src      Dst Data
 4  5  00 5400 3e26   0 0000  fe  01 58fa 1a070066 80640141 
64 bytes from 128.100.1.65: icmp_seq=3 time=802 ms
36 bytes from RESTON-DCEC-MB.DDN.MIL (26.21.0.104): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x1100141a)
Vr HL TOS  Len   ID Flg  off TTL Pro  cks      Src      Dst Data
 4  5  00 5400 4126   0 0000  fe  01 55fa 1a070066 80640141 
36 bytes from MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL (26.20.0.17): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x6800151a)
Vr HL TOS  Len   ID Flg  off TTL Pro  cks      Src      Dst Data
 4  5  00 2800 4426   0 0000  1d  06 39db 1a070066 80e40102 
TCP: from port 25, to port 26068 (decimal)
64 bytes from 128.100.1.65: icmp_seq=4 time=833 ms
----neat.ai.toronto.edu PING Statistics----
5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip (ms)  min/avg/max = 802/857/897

PING uunet.uu.net (192.12.141.129): 56 data bytes
36 bytes from MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL (26.20.0.17): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x6800151a)
Vr HL TOS  Len   ID Flg  off TTL Pro  cks      Src      Dst Data
 4  5  00 5400 4727   0 0000  fe  01 672d 1a070066 c00c8d81 
64 bytes from 192.12.141.129: icmp_seq=0 time=671 ms
36 bytes from RESTON-DCEC-MB.DDN.MIL (26.21.0.104): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x1100141a)
Vr HL TOS  Len   ID Flg  off TTL Pro  cks      Src      Dst Data
 4  5  00 5400 4f27   0 0000  fe  01 5f2d 1a070066 c00c8d81 
64 bytes from 192.12.141.129: icmp_seq=1 time=507 ms
36 bytes from MOFFETT-FLD-MB.DDN.MIL (26.20.0.16): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x6800151a)
Vr HL TOS  Len   ID Flg  off TTL Pro  cks      Src      Dst Data
 4  5  00 3900 5127   0 0000  1d  11 91c6 1a070066 81631402 
UDP: from port 53, to port 53 (decimal)
36 bytes from MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL (26.20.0.17): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x6800151a)
Vr HL TOS  Len   ID Flg  off TTL Pro  cks      Src      Dst Data
 4  5  00 5400 5727   0 0000  fe  01 572d 1a070066 c00c8d81 
64 bytes from 192.12.141.129: icmp_seq=2 time=511 ms
36 bytes from RESTON-DCEC-MB.DDN.MIL (26.21.0.104): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x1100141a)
Vr HL TOS  Len   ID Flg  off TTL Pro  cks      Src      Dst Data
 4  5  00 5400 6327   0 0000  fe  01 4b2d 1a070066 c00c8d81 
64 bytes from 192.12.141.129: icmp_seq=3 time=570 ms
36 bytes from MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL (26.20.0.17): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x6800151a)
Vr HL TOS  Len   ID Flg  off TTL Pro  cks      Src      Dst Data
 4  5  00 5400 6c27   0 0000  fe  01 422d 1a070066 c00c8d81 
64 bytes from 192.12.141.129: icmp_seq=4 time=483 ms
----uunet.uu.net PING Statistics----
5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip (ms)  min/avg/max = 483/548/671

Here the top of a dump from gated on our milnet gateway (if anyone
wants the rest ask and I will mail to you [provided the bflys
cooperate]):

	GATED version 1.3.1.36 memory dump at Sat Jan 14 02:02:49 1989


	INTERFACE STATS:

	Interface: imp0			metric: 0
	Address: 26.7.0.102
	Up-down transitions: 0
	Net Number:    26.0.0.0		Net Mask:    ff000000
	Subnet Number: 26.0.0.0		Subnet Mask: ff000000
	Reconstituted Metric (RIP ONLY): NOT APPLIED (uses true metric)
	Flags: <UP|INTERFACE>
	Fixed Metrics:
	RIP:	NONE
	HELLO:	NONE
	Active gateways on interface:	NONE

	Interface: ex0			metric: 0
	Address: 192.12.31.1
	Up-down transitions: 0
	Broadcast Address:   192.12.31.255
	Net Number:    192.12.31.0		Net Mask:    ffffff00
	Subnet Number: 192.12.31.0		Subnet Mask: ffffff00
	Reconstituted Metric (RIP ONLY): NOT APPLIED (uses true metric)
	Flags: <UP|BROADCAST|INTERFACE|NOHELLOOUT>
	Fixed Metrics:
			RIP:	NONE
			HELLO:	NONE
	Active gateways on interface:	NONE

	EGP status:
		N_remote_nets: 4		defaultegpmetric: 255
		Autonomous System: 214

		Neighbor: 26.21.0.104		Interface: 26.7.0.102
		Hello interval: 62		Poll interval: 186
		State: <NEIGHBOR>		Reachability: <NG_UP|ME_UP>
		Poll net: 26.0.0.0		Flags: <>

		Neighbor: 26.20.0.17		Interface: 26.7.0.102
		Hello interval: 62		Poll interval: 186
		State: <NEIGHBOR>		Reachability: <NG_UP|ME_UP>
		Poll net: 26.0.0.0		Flags: <>

		Neighbor: 26.1.0.40		Interface: 26.7.0.102
		Hello interval: 62		Poll interval: 186
		State: <NEIGHBOR>		Reachability: <NG_UP|ME_UP>
		Poll net: 26.0.0.0		Flags: <>

		Neighbor: 26.3.0.75		Interface: 26.7.0.102
		Hello interval: 62		Poll interval: 186
		State: <NEIGHBOR>		Reachability: <NG_UP|ME_UP>
		Poll net: 26.0.0.0		Flags: <>

		Neighbor: 26.1.0.65		Interface: 26.7.0.102
		Hello interval: 62		Poll interval: 186
		State: <NEIGHBOR>		Reachability: <NG_UP|ME_UP>
		Poll net: 26.0.0.0		Flags: <>

	Martian networks:
		224.0.0.0 223.255.255.0 192.0.0.0 191.255.0.0 128.0.0.0 
		127.0.0.0 

-----------------------------------------------------------
	ROUTING TABLES:		626 nets

Ata@RADC-MULTICS.ARPA ("John G. Ata") (01/17/89)

          We've had flip-flop redirects here, but only on one network.
We used to get them on ARPANET destined packets, but haven't in a while.
Looks like something is definitely wrong.  Anyways, here is a log of
redirects over the last three days (note this is over a weekend, so not
much traffic was probably going through):

Log >sc1>as_logs>net_log from 1989-01-14 09:51:27.453483 to 1989-01-17 09:50:19.428283

1989-01-14  Sat  est
12:48:25 5548177  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
12:48:26 5548179  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
12:48:33 5548183  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
12:48:34 5548185  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
12:48:35 5548188  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
12:48:35 5548190  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
12:48:36 5548192  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
12:48:36 5548194  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
12:48:36 5548196  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
12:48:37 5548199  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
12:48:37 5548201  1 ==
12:48:38 5548203  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
12:48:38 5548205  1 ==
12:48:38 5548207  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
12:48:39 5548209  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
12:48:39 5548211  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
12:48:41 5548213  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
12:48:41 5548215  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
12:48:42 5548217  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
12:48:43 5548219  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
12:48:43 5548221  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
12:48:44 5548223  1 ==
12:48:44 5548225  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
12:48:44 5548227  1 ==
12:48:44 5548229  1 ==
12:48:45 5548231  1 ==
12:48:45 5548233  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
12:48:45 5548236  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
12:48:46 5548238  1 ==
12:48:46 5548240  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
12:48:47 5548242  1 ==
12:48:47 5548245  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
12:48:47 5548247  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
12:48:48 5548249  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
13:02:14 5548258  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
13:02:15 5548260  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
13:02:31 5548266  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
13:33:30 5548315  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
13:33:31 5548317  1 ==
13:33:32 5548319  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
13:33:33 5548321  1 ==
13:33:33 5548323  1 ==
14:51:34 5548365  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
19:28:41 5548596  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
19:28:41 5548598  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
19:44:47 5548613  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
21:25:39 5548730  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
21:25:39 5548732  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.

1989-01-15  Sun  est
01:12:06 5548835  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
02:31:24 5548904  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
02:31:25 5548906  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
02:35:33 5548917  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.

1989-01-16  Mon  est
13:28:03 5550477  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
13:28:05 5550479  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
13:38:14 5550492  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
14:27:37 5550551  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
14:27:38 5550553  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
14:40:36 5550568  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
14:48:22 5550579  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
14:48:24 5550581  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
14:48:28 5550584  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
15:02:22 5550598  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
15:02:24 5550600  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
15:09:03 5550618  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
15:43:26 5550669  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
15:43:27 5550671  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
15:43:28 5550673  1 ==
15:43:34 5550677  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
15:52:45 5550688  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
15:52:45 5550690  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
16:51:52 5550744  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
16:51:53 5550746  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
16:51:54 5550748  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
16:51:54 5550750  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
16:51:54 5550752  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
16:51:56 5550755  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
16:51:56 5550757  1 ==
16:51:56 5550759  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
16:51:57 5550761  1 ==
16:51:57 5550763  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
16:51:58 5550766  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
16:51:58 5550768  1 ==
16:51:58 5550770  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
16:51:59 5550772  1 ==
16:51:59 5550774  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
16:52:01 5550777  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
16:52:01 5550779  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
16:52:02 5550781  1 ==
16:52:02 5550783  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
16:52:03 5550786  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
16:52:03 5550788  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
16:52:04 5550790  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
16:52:05 5550792  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
16:52:06 5550794  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
16:52:07 5550796  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
16:52:09 5550798  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
16:52:09 5550800  1 ==
16:52:09 5550802  1 ==
16:52:10 5550804  1 ==
16:52:10 5550806  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
16:52:10 5550808  1 ==
16:52:10 5550810  1 ==
16:52:10 5550812  1 ==
16:52:11 5550814  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
16:52:12 5550816  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
16:52:12 5550818  1 ==
16:52:12 5550820  1 ==
16:52:13 5550822  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
16:52:13 5550824  1 ==
16:52:13 5550826  1 ==
16:52:13 5550828  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
16:52:13 5550830  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
16:52:14 5550832  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
16:52:14 5550834  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
16:52:14 5550837  1 ==
16:52:15 5550839  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
16:52:15 5550841  1 ==
16:52:15 5550843  1 ==
16:52:16 5550846  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
16:52:18 5550848  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
16:52:19 5550850  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
16:52:20 5550852  1 ==
18:54:06 5550990  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
18:54:09 5550992  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
18:54:25 5550998  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
18:54:26 5551000  1 ==
18:54:26 5551002  1 ==
19:51:44 5551058  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
19:51:45 5551060  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
20:01:29 5551070  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
20:59:55 5551151  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
20:59:55 5551153  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
21:00:19 5551160  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
21:00:19 5551162  1 ==
23:07:39 5551282  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
23:07:42 5551284  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
23:16:14 5551297  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.

1989-01-17  Tue  est
02:04:13 5551439  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
02:04:13 5551441  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
02:32:53 5551464  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
02:49:29 5551479  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
02:49:30 5551481  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
02:57:00 5551501  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
02:57:02 5551503  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
02:57:03 5551505  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
02:57:04 5551507  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
02:57:04 5551509  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
02:57:04 5551511  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
02:57:05 5551514  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
02:57:05 5551516  1 ==
02:57:06 5551518  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
02:57:07 5551521  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
02:57:07 5551523  1 ==
02:57:07 5551525  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
02:57:08 5551527  1 ==
09:49:38 5551943  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
09:49:38 5551945  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
09:49:57 5551950  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
09:49:57 5551952  1 ==
09:49:57 5551955  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through AERONET-GW.ARPA by CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL.
09:49:59 5551957  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
09:49:59 5551959  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.
09:50:01 5551961  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL by AERONET-GW.ARPA.
09:50:03 5551963  1 in    icmp: Packet to LOUIE.UDEL.EDU redirected through CAMBRIDGE-MB.DDN.MIL by MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL.

jchao@BBN.COM (01/19/89)

Tim and Jim 

Thank you for reporting and forwarding the redirects log. 
We are trying to understand the problem and hope to resolve it 
soon.  To help us track down the problem we would appreciate 
it very much if you could in the future include in the log the 
source and destination IP addresses of the original packets 
(if they are readily available).  It would also be extra nice 
if a short description or a simple diagram be included in the
msg showing how your host/gw is connected to Arpanet/Milnet/Internet.  

We suspect a possible configuration problem on the reston-dcec-mb.ddn.mil
gateway (10.6.0.20, 26.21.0.104) and we have temporarily turned 
loadsharing off for that gatewayw.  This should solve the looping redirects 
between reston-dcec-mb.ddn.mil and mclean-mb.ddn.mil as reported by Tim 
for now. We are studying John's report.  It may be a transition problem 
related to LSI11 GGP extrap hop and interaction between
ICMP net redirects from Butterfly Mailbridges (loadsharing) 
and ICMP net redirects from LSI11 EGP servers.

Please cc future msgs to mb-transition@BBN.COM.  Thank you for your 
assistence and cooperation.

John Chao
BBNCC Gateway Development