[comp.protocols.tcp-ip] Commercial use of the Internet

VANCE@JVNCC.CSC.ORG (02/14/89)

Hello,

Could someone please send me any information that claifies what the
policy is on commercial use of the internet? I have asked and have 
not received any info on this.

Thanks in advance,

Vercell Vance
Manager of User Services
John von Neumann National Supercomputer Center
POB 3717
Princeton, NJ 98543

	or

Vance@jvnca.csc.org

steve@NOTE.NSF.GOV (Stephen Wolff) (02/14/89)

>  Could someone please send me any information that claifies what the
>  policy is on commercial use of the internet?

Unhappily, there is as yet no SINGLE policy, because the Internet is
administered by a number of different Federal agencies whose usage policies
differ.  The situation is complicated in the NSFNET case because the
mid-level networks (e.g., JVNCNET) are autonomous business entities with
their own policies.

Until a formal policy is issued by NSF (we ARE working on it!), you should
assume that traffic passed over the NSFNET Backbone must be "in support of
scientific research and other scholarly activities."

That does not rule out commercial use, obviously.

If your traffic is going to remain on JVNCNET, ask the von Neumann Center
folks for their policy.

The Federal Research Internet Coordinating Committee (FRICC), comprised of
folks who own bits of the Internet, has a draft joint usage policy under
discussion.

-s

john@amc.UUCP (John Sambrook) (02/17/89)

I read with interest Stephen Wolff's article (8902140913.aa11462@note.nsf.gov) 
on "Commercial use of the Internet."  As someone who has recently lost his
access to the Internet (due to changing jobs) this topic is (now!) near and
dear to my heart.  I'd appreciate comments on the following suggestion:

I would like to suggest that the rules for obtaining "connected status"
be ammended to permit commerical use of the Internet.  For the sake of
discussion I will refer to this as "Commerical Connected Status (CCS)."
Applying for, and receiving, this status would authorize a commerical
organization to connect to the Internet.

Of course, some means for cost recovery must be provided.  I would
suggest that this would be the domain (no pun intended) of the commerical
communications companies.  In particular, they could provide gateways
to the Internet, that would perform a cost-accounting function.  They 
would bill their customers, and in turn would be responsible for
reimbursing the federal government for their use of the Internet.  

Comments?

John Sambrook                        Internet: amc!john@uunet.uu.net
Applied Microsystems Corporation	 UUCP: amc!john
Redmond, Washington  98073               Dial: (206) 882-2000 ext. 630


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John Sambrook                        Internet: amc!john@uunet.uu.net
Applied Microsystems Corporation	 UUCP: amc!john
Redmond, Washington  98073               Dial: (206) 882-2000 ext. 326

CERF@A.ISI.EDU (02/19/89)

John,

There are several efforts to make links available from
public email carriers into the Internet. DASNET based
in San Fracisco area (I think) has one such link. UUNET 
has UUCP to Internet facility. My company is working on a
link between Internet and MCI Mail. We hope to pursue
other such links or to encourage them, as appropriate.

This does NOT mean that the Internet should be used for
commercial purposes - I distinguish between links between
commercial organizations and the Internet for purposes of
research support, exchanges with the academic and research
community and commercial use (i.e. using the facilities
of the Internet to support a profit-making enterprise).
It should be legitimate for a commercial enterprise to
provide for-profit services linking their users to users
of the Internet, but the general purpose of such links
should be to further exchanges among the R&D community members.

A final statement of use and interconnect policy is still the
subject of consideration by the members of the FRICC.

Vint