[comp.protocols.tcp-ip] Reliable Datagram Sockets

vanden@brubeck.SRC.Honeywell.COM (Kurt Vandenberg) (03/16/89)

The bsd 4.3 and Sun OS 4.0 manuals refer to reliable datagram sockets but say
they are not implemented yet.  Does anyone know of an implementation
(available or in the works) for reliable datagram sockets?


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postel@VENERA.ISI.EDU (03/17/89)

Kurt Vandenberg:

Please note, "reliable datagram" is an oxymoron (like Military Intelligence).

--jon.

PADLIPSKY@A.ISI.EDU (Michael Padlipsky) (03/18/89)

One might, however, achieve oxydullnormalcy by using the checksums which
are, after all, available in UDP's spec.  Granted, not _truly_ reliable since
lacking retransmission discipline; but possibly what's meant/wanted in
context--provided, of course, that anybody implements it....

(There's also the quibble that if you define by Form rather than by
Content, TCP/IP "is" a reliable datagram protocol, since it/they satisfy
the formal criterion for datagrammaticality of containing source and
destination addresses in each transmission unit, but I'm not really in
the mood for that one, so let it go.)

   cheers, map
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