[comp.protocols.tcp-ip] HACKERS AND MAILERS AND BIND

J.Crowcroft@CS.UCL.AC.UK (Jon Crowcroft) (06/12/89)

The main reason we do not like hackers is that they deprive us of
resources (either by theft or denial of service).

Mailers that result in multiple copies being re-produced in ludicrous
quantities deny service (bandwidth through network, disk space on 
mailbox host (message store), user time discarding) are half as bad as
this.

What punitive measures are to be taken against sites that do not
maintain their service MHS's properly...? 

or

what's the difference between negligence and recklessness?

cheers

jon

mcc@WLV.IMSD.CONTEL.COM (Merton Campbell Crockett) (07/22/89)

Since this response is through the TCP/IP group rather than the BIND group
the context is incomplete.  Rutgers is running a BIND mail concentrator
which began retransmitting messages at 20 minute intervals increasing the
size of the message at each interval.  In the USA the internet is a "free"
service (your tax dollar at work) the only cost is loss of bandwidth and
the irritation of browsing through duplicated messages.  The author of the
message is in the UK--he is charged for each packet that traverses the
transatlantic link wheether or not he originated the message traffic.  No
doubt you would be piqued if you were paying three days worth of duplicate
message traffic.

Merton

CONNELNI@UIAMVS.BITNET (Ken Connelly) (07/23/89)

What's the point???  Do you have a problem with a particular site?
Or a particular piece of software?  Or what?