[comp.protocols.tcp-ip] network problem

QWYELX@HUMBER.BITNET (Erone Quek) (08/29/89)

We have a problem in our local area network and any help will be more
than appreciated.

Background:
- physical installation
  - IEEE 802.3 over twisted pair/fiber optics, star configuration
  - Synoptics Lattisnet Model 1000 premise concentrators
  - fiber optics between concentrators
  - unshield twisted pair (UTP) (4-pair) from concentrator to
    user access RJ45 jack

- protocol & applications
  - tcp/ip only
  - telnet, ftp, smtp, sun-nfs, tn3270

- legend    ===         ---      ***            +++
               ||          |        *              +
               || fiber    | UTP    * AUI cable    + thin wire ethernet

            505s -- Synoptics AUI/UTP Transceiver (Xcvr)

- topology

  --------------------       --------------------
 |Lattisnet mod 1000  |     |Lattisnet mod 1000  |
 |central concentrator|     |local concentator 1 |
 |204 Retiming card   |     |405 UTP host modules|--------------------
 |201-ST Interconnect | ====|203-ST fiber termin.|                    |
  --------------------       --------------------                     |
              ||    ||                                                |
              ||    ||       PC 1, MS-DOS, PC/TCP v2.03, WD8003E-TP --|
              ||    ||                                                |
              ||    ||       SUN 1, SUN 3/280, SUN OS 4.2********505--|
              ||    ||                                                |
              ||    ||       IBM3090, MVS, ACC9315, ACCES/MVS****505--|
              ||    ||                                                |
              ||    ||       Bridge CS/1 term server*************505--|
              ||    ||
              ||    ||       --------------------
              ||    ||      |Lattisnet mod 1000  |
              ||    ||      |local concentator 2 |
              ||    ||      |405 UTP host modules|--------------------
              ||      ======|203-ST fiber termin.|                    |
              ||             ---------------------                    |
              ||                                                      |
              ||             ISI 1, ISI V24/68020, BSD 4.3*******505--|
              ||
              ||             --------------------
              ||            |Lattisnet mod 1000  |
              ||            |local concentator 3 |
              ||            |405 UTP host modules|--------------------
                ============|203-ST fiber termin.|                    |
                             ---------------------                    |
                                                                      |
                             SUN 2, SUN 3/280, SUN OS 4.2********505--|
                                                                      |
                                          ------------------          |
                                         |DEC DEMPR         |****505--|
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++|thin wire repeater|
    +                                     ------------------
    +
    +++++ ---------
         |DEC DESTA|*****ISI 2, ISI V24/68020, BSD 4.3
          ---------

-all cable/fiber lengths are within Synoptic's spec.

Okay, with this topology :

What works: - PC 1 can talk to every one
            - SUN 1 can talk to every one
            - IBM3090 can talk to every one
            - CS/1 can talk to every one EXCEPT ISI 2, can't connect to it
            - ISI 1 can talk to every one (identical hardware as ISI 2)
            - SUN 2 can talk to every one
            - ISI 2 can, with difficulty, talk to every one EXCEPT the CS/1
              - what difficulty ?
                - when I do a netstat -I ex0

Name  Mtu   Network     Address      Ipkts   Ierrs Opkts   Oerrs Collis
ex0   1500  xxx.yy      isi2         424082  0     325703  0     208550

            - although this works, it's not at all desirable. As you can
              see, I can, theoretically, plug the AUI cable from ISI 2
              into a 505 and straight to the Synoptics box, and that's
              what is NOT working. If I took the DEMPR out, as soon as
              I plug the 505 (which has ISI 2 on the other end) onto the
              Synoptics concentrator, I got a constant collision signal
              on the concentrator and the whole network was jammed.
              However, netstat -I ex0 on ISI 2 will NOT show any significant
              collisions !! I swapped 4 ethernet boards off ISI 2,
              same results.

My questions, finally: What's going on ? What did I do wrong ?
                       Incompatibilities at where ?

Erone Quek