[comp.protocols.tcp-ip] OSI, X.25 and the INTERNET

dennis@etinc.UUCP (Dennis E. Baasch 271-4525, 516) (06/15/90)

	This isn't in response to any particular message, but all of the banter
about OSI and the INTERNET (philosophically speaking) has really been getting
on my nerves. I usually tend to stay out of nonsensical arguments, but in this
case I feed compelled to express my views.

	It seems totally amazing to me that so many very well educated folks
can have such a limited understanding about what's going on in this country
( the United States, that is). Whether its arrogance or ignorance isn't yet
clear, but with all of the propaganda floating around (these lists not
withstanding), I suppose it isn't too surprising. Perhaps the truth isn't as
clear when you don't have many FACTS to work with.

	It seems that anyone with even limited networking experience could
easily come to the conclusion that there is no single solution that will
unite the world. The diversity of applications is much too great, and the
investment in applications much to great to expect any real migration to
any networking concept very much different to what currently exists. The
proponants of OSI are kidding themselves if they think that their concept is
leading them to some sort of utopia; there's a price to pay for generality
and a world screaming for more throughput and functionality is not likely
to sacrifice speed and comfort for 4-wheel drive.

	There's exactly two reasons for the existence (and success) of the 
INTERNET: The AT&T breakup and the fact that it is virtually the only 
supported nationwide network. 

The AT&T breakup: The reasoning behind this may not be obvious to the average
reader, but the AT&T breakup may be the single most significant event in 
modern networking history. In a negative sort of way, that is. In virtually
every modern country in the world all networking is based on a centralize
packet-switching backbone run by the equivalent of what used to be AT&T.
The breakup makes such a network ILLEGAL in the US, at least if implemented
by the phone companies, and has also left the individual phone companies
so talentless that data networking is practically out of their realm of 
understanding. This fact has also left this country so far behind in X.25
technology that few even think about it and almost no-one understands it.
I read a message in which someone referred to X.25 as "ancient technology",
which is quite ironic since in reality it hasn't yet arrived in the US.
This from the people who have proposed PPP, a protocol with half of the
functionality of X.25, none of the networking capabilities and twice the
overhead. The fact is that X.25 is so vastly superior to anything thats 
been proposed in the last 10 years that there's very little reason to 
come up with something else. Its generic transport with a single basic 
concept: logical multiplexing is faster and more efficent than physical
interface management; something that will hold true until busses are
faster than CPUs. The only thing "ancient" about X.25 is the public
switches, most of which are still based on 6809s. But new technology
products with X.25 at T1 speeds are creeping into the marketplace, and 
when they do, the Europeons will be laughing out loud.

While the INTERNET isn't really the only national network, its the only one
thats run for fundamentally unselfish reasons. For E-MAIL and shuffling
around public domain code, its just fine. But if someone came into your board
room and proposed this ratsnest with all of the patchwork protocols,
overburdened routers and (how many hops?) with no link-level error
correction, what would you think?

	I don't have a conclusion to all of this, only a collection of fears.
I'm not sure that I'm even trying to make a point, but if I am, it might be 
something like this: The Europeans may be trying to build a tall building with
short cranes (OSI over X.25), but in the US we're trying to build an equally
ugly edifice on sand (IP over ?). Neither will stand a hurricane, but at least
the Europeans have a basement.


					Dennis
					Emerging Technologies
					etinc!dennis@uu.psi.com