jj@rabbit.UUCP (10/22/84)
All this stupid raving about net.fascism is so annoying that I'm beginning to think that we need to moderate net.flame to keep it out. So there! More seriously (I hope nobody needs the :-) in the previous two paragraphs), I think that the question of "censorship" is a straw man, and that moderated newsgroups for the more active groups is a VALUABLE service having nothing to do with fascism or with elitism. In most groups, the discussion (because NOBODY reads the nettequette document) of any subject is {1 question, 6.02e23 responses with the same information}. IN the few groups that are NOT working that way, antagonistic flamers (see net.singles, net.politics, net.motss <i guess>, and net.women for examples) have DELIBERATELY and with MALICE aforethought driven all serious discussion away by question the subject matter in a way calculated to cause insult and hurt, without regard for either the purpose of the newsgroup or the individuals who could benefit from the same. The most offensive part of the paranoid ravings about "net.fascism" is that no one is being denied a forum for their notes. None of the newsgroups so recently moderated are being removed, and the conventional opportunity remains. There is, to date, no question of removing net.* where * matches the list of moderated groups. From the discussions on the net (I admit to never reading net.news.group) it appears that such will happen if there is no traffic, and not sooner. Those of you who wish to play in what has become a septic tank are welcome to stay there, however, if you wish to continue to contribute to those who care most about the subject matter, I think you may have to bow to the mod. newsgroups, and modify your postings to be appropriate for adult discussion. Since I can't see any reason for anyone who cares to act reasonably care about the mod.* groups, I guess I'll have to assume that those who are flaming are also those who aren't willing to modify their behavior. <Gee. I haven't flamed in a long time. It's fun!> -- BE KIND TO SOFT FURRY CREATURES, THE LIFE YOU SAVE MAY BE YOUR OWN! "...How do you get this thing out of second gear? Beep Beep!" (allegra,ihnp4,ulysses)!rabbit!jj
jdb@qubix.UUCP (Jeff Bulf) (10/29/84)
> [rabbit!jj] > All this stupid raving about net.fascism is so annoying that I'm beginning > to think that we need to moderate net.flame to keep it out. Of course! mod.flame! How silly of me not to have thought of it. :-) Actually some of the earlier discussions of the topic in net.singles recalled to me an old sayinging, I think from Art Hoppe of the SF Comical: "If there is any right that people hate to give up, it is the right to deprive somebody else of his rights." "You are right from your side, and I am right from mine" -- Dr Memory ...{decvax,ucbvax,ihnp4}!decwrl!qubix!jdb