jimk@iscuva.ISCS.COM (Jim Kendall) (06/15/88)
OHH!!! I forgot to ask.......... Has anyone got TCP/IP working on their eniac yet???? (That's a joke, son....... :-) Cheers! -- Jim Kendall ISC Systems Corp. My boss is in full jimk@iscuva.ISCS.COM E. 22425 Appleway agreement with all uunet!iscuva!jimk Liberty Lake, WA 99019 of my opinions....
LAWS@rsre.mod.UK (John Laws, on UK.MOD.RSRE) (06/16/88)
Jim, '...eniac...' Hmmmmm.... in the spirit of competition and keeping the UK ahead of the game - I'll race down to the Science Museum London and hack TCP/IP onto the Babbage m/c ...... now where did I put my hacksaw (agreed a weak pun). Those of you strong on theory might like to try it on the Turing m/c - US folks would rather go to Church and Post a solution, or in these days of detente why not chain yourself to A Markov. Wales is a whisper away from here so don't be surprised if you hear on the news come 21/22 June that Stonehenge, after Hoyle (Fred and not the American maker of Rules quoted in a song), has been re- programmed with Theological Cosmic Prayer/Inter-galatic Protocol. John
steve@NOTE.NSF.GOV (Stephen Wolff) (06/16/88)
128.91.2.22 eniac.seas.upenn.edu <grin>
steve@vlink01.UUCP (1770 MCI) (02/07/90)
I apologize for being so ignorant, but what is tcp-ip? What is it run on, is like uucp or what? Thanks. -- |UUCP Mail : osu-cis!vlink01!steve |Vlink | |MCI Mail : uucp!mcimail.com!368-5882 |Steven E. Frazier | |ATT Mail : attmail!vlink01!steve |1828 Darrow Drive | |Voice Mail: 614-755-3772 |Powell, Ohio 43065 |
PETEHIC@UOTTAWA.BITNET (Pete Hickey) (02/09/90)
>I apologize for being so ignorant, but what is tcp-ip? What is it run >on, is like uucp or what? Yeah, its kind of like UUCP, but more powerful. It runs on lots of machines. ======================================================================= Pete Hickey | Convention says that something funny University of Ottawa | goes here. Its blank because I have Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA | nothing funny to say. (613) 564-7646 |_____________________________________ petehic@uotacdvm.uottawa.CA PETEHIC@UOTTAWA.BITNET
oberman@rogue.llnl.gov (Oberman, Kevin) (02/09/90)
In article <90Feb8.205744est.58593@ugw.utcs.utoronto.ca>, PETEHIC@UOTTAWA.BITNET (Pete Hickey) writes... > >>I apologize for being so ignorant, but what is tcp-ip? What is it run >>on, is like uucp or what? > >Yeah, its kind of like UUCP, but more powerful. It runs on lots of >machines. *Sigh* I hate seeing this sort of fairly useless answer, but it is (a little) better than nothing, I suppose. TCP/IP (tcp-ip, IP/TCP, ...) is the most common name for the DOD Network Protocol suite. It was originally developed in the seventies by a community of people under the auspices of ARPA, a DOD research agency. (Maybe ARPANET sounds familiar.) TCP is Tranmission Control Protocol and IP is Internet Protocol, making tcp-ip a poor name. TCP is often not used. But its use is so nearly universal that I don't see the point in fighting it. TCP/IP includes a rich networking environment which include remote login (TELNET), file transfer (FTP), electronic mail (SMTP), network management (SNMP) and lots of other stuff. The standards are under continual revision and expansion, so today's TCP/IP bears little similarity to that of a decade ago. Even so, they may well interoperate. Because TCP/IP was developed with government money and is not tied to any single vendor it has become the defacto standard for multi-vendor networking and is available from at least dozens, if not hundreds of vendors for virtually any computer system from an PC to a Cray. It is also the standard network for almost all Unix(tm) based systems. While its capabilities are nowhere near as advanced as the proposed OSI protocols (no flames, please), TCP/IP has two significant advantages. It's here and available NOW and in use on well over 100,000 systems and it works. OSI implementations are just coming into being and many important standards for OSI are still under development. UUCP (Unix(tm) to Unix(tm) Copy Program (as I recall)) is a fairly primative but simple to implement communications method designed for the sole purpose of copying a file from one system to another. It has since been adapted for E-Mail use. UUCP is easy to set up and maintain, but is very limited in its capabilities. It is usually used over low speed, dial-up lines and often requires explicit (bang style) routing information. I suspect I could sontinue with this for a week or so, but I think I've described the most significant things involved. R. Kevin Oberman Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Internet: oberman@icdc.llnl.gov (415) 422-6955 Disclaimer: Don't take this too seriously. I just like to improve my typing and probably don't really know anything useful about anything. Also, my spell checker won't work in NEWS. Got to fix that sometime!
cb@sequoia.execu.com (Christopher D. Brown) (10/12/90)
Execucom is building an MS Windows 3.0 software product
which supports TCP/IP using the socket library model.
Frankly, we were hoping that Sun would have already
delivered the supporting network software ... In any case,
we need to get on with this aspect of the project and are
looking for commercial software supporting TCP/IP via
sockets under Windows 3 (including 386 enhanced mode).
I am doubtful about using the public domain software so
frequently discussed here. This route would seem to require
a good deal more technical expertise than a commercial
package. A commercial package would also seem to reduce
legal difficulties when reselling the software. Is this too
conservative?
"Network Windows (TM) Software Development Kit" from
Distinct Corporation in Saratoga, CA claims to meet my
requirements. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who
has experience with this product and/or company. Pointers
to alternate products would be gratefully accepted.
If there appears to be any interest, I post any alternate
vendors and product reviews.
Thanks in advance.
Chris
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