[comp.protocols.tcp-ip] access to polydos.uni-konstanz.de

nipper@i32fs2.ira.uka.de (Arnold Nipper) (10/12/90)

In article <1627.655631099@munnari> kre@MUNNARI.OZ.AU (Robert Elz) writes:
>For TCP-IP reades, this was (part of a message) sent to INFO-NETS ...
>
>    Date:        Wed, 10 Oct 90 22:44:14 PDT
>    From:        netinfo@violet.berkeley.edu (Postmaster & BITINFO)
>    Message-ID:  <9010110544.AA12667@violet.berkeley.edu>
>
>    I get to Germany in 17 hops, then beyond 188.1.132.24 (21st hop)
>    packets appear to go into a black hole.
>
>I didn't believe that number when I first saw it ... thought
>it must be a typo, or something, so I just had to try it
>for myself...
>
>But sure enough, its correct, there is something out there,
>pretending to be net 188.1, and connected to the Internet.

Yes, the netname is WIN-IP (WIssenschaftsNetz) and this net
is an IP/X.25 net connecting most of the German universities
and other research institutions.

>
>Unless some very strange thigs have happened, net 188.1 is
>not yet allocated to anyone (and perhaps by the time it is
>no-one will really care anyway, as its so close to the end
>of the available class B numbers).  Certainly there are no
>allocated 188.* nets listed in the NIC's network-contacts.txt
>file.

Nets 188.1 - 191.254 are preallocated to what is called
PDN cluster. This net clustering is the basis for the
PDN cluster addressing scheme which uses it to do efficient
routing. Contact C.-H. Rokitansky ( roki@dhafeu52.bitnet ) to
get more information about this. He is the former chairman
of the IETF working group on PDN.

>
>Is there some proper person to get in contact with these
>people and politely, or very impolitely, suggest that if
>they want to be connected to the internet, they should be
>using properly allocated numbers?
>

For more information about this, please contact:

	Martin Wilhelm
 	Verein zur Foerderung eines Deutschen Forschungsnetzes (DFN) e.V.
 	Zentrale Projektleitung
 	Pariser Strasse 40
 	W-1000 Berlin 15
 	Federal Republic of Germany
 	+49 30 884299 30
 	wilhelm@zpl.dfn.dbp.de

If you have problems to reach uni-konstanz.de please contact me or:

	Jochen Bruening
	University of Konstanz
 	Universitaetsstrasse 10
 	Postfach 5560, D-7750 Konstanz
 	+49 7531 88 2410
 	rzbng@dknkurz1.bitnet

>Its no wonder that routing isn't working...

Net 188.1 is only the backbone for IP/WIN. Therefor there should be
no problems to reach any site in Germany connected to the internet.
Of course if you want to connect to some backbone machine with a
188.1 address you will fail.

Arnold
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