[comp.protocols.tcp-ip] ISDN RRs/RFC 1183 opinions sought

ddp+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Drew Daniel Perkins) (10/29/90)

I'm curious about people's opinions on the ISDN provisions of RFC 1183,
"New DNS RR Definitions", C. Everhart, L. Mamakos, R. Ullmann, P.
Mockapetris.  Do people think these RRs are useful?  Are they likely to
be used?  How were they intended to be used?  How would these integrate 
routing protocols?

The description in RFC 1183 seems a bit confusing to me.  In particular,
 domains like "Relay.Prime.COM" are used, rather than domains like
IN-ADDR.ARPA.  I imagine the intended purpose of the ISDN RR is to be
able to automatically establishe connections over an ISDN link upon
receipt of the first IP packet.  I would think that you would want to do
lookups by IP address, although I can imagine looking for a PTR record
first and then looking for a corresponding ISDN record.

I also find it confusing exactly how the RT record is intended to work.

Here's one scenario that I think these might be useful in.  Imagine two
isolated island networks NA and NB, such as might exist in two companies
or universities.  Each island network has a one or more routers, maybe
RC and RD, with ISDN connections which can establish links to other
networks.  Now let's say I try to telnet from one non-ISDN machine HE on
network NA to a non-ISDN machine HR on network NB.  One way I could
imagine things working is that router RC might advertise a default route
to hosts on its network including HE.  So, when I telnet, HE would send
its packets to RC.  Now, when RC received the packet addressed to HF, it
might look up RRs for HF and it might find an RT RR for RD.  Looking up
RD it might find an ISDN RR with RD's number.  It could then forward the
packet through to RD, which would then forward it to HF.  HF's response
would hopefully be sent back through RD (due to having corrrect updated
routing information) which would then realize that it already has a
connection open to RC, and would simply send it through.

When we start scaling this simple example up, I see a lot of problems
start popping up.  Imagine I just have a single host (at home maybe)
with an ISDN connection.  Now, I want to telnet to a host which is
somewhere on the Internet, behind maybe dozens of router hops.  It's
hard to imagine that every host on the internet will have an RT RR in
the DNS.  If I were a random site with hosts on the Internet, but no
ISDN connections, what RT RR would I want to advertise?  There might be
thousands of other hosts/routers on the Internet with ISDN connections. 
Which would I choose, and how?

Drew