jbev@iscden.jbsys.com ( J B Systems) (02/26/91)
I have received a spec which references MS 1777 (IP) and MS 1778 (TCP). I have the rfc's to tcp and ip, but where can I find an archive for the mil standards? Any help would be welcome. Jim Bevier jbev@jbsys.com
jbvb@FTP.COM (James B. Van Bokkelen) (03/01/91)
I have received a spec which references MS 1777 (IP) and MS 1778 (TCP).
I have the rfc's to tcp and ip, but where can I find an archive for the
mil standards?
I don't think the Mil Stds are available in machine-readable form. Those
two happen to be included in the DDN Protocol Handbook, which you can buy
from the NIC at SRI in Menlo Park, CA or the DTIC in Alexandria, VA.
In any case, you don't want to implement from the Mil Stds for TCP and IP.
They don't specify exactly the same protocol as the RFCs, and furthermore,
they are internally inconsistent in at least a couple of important places
(see RFCs 964 and 963). Use the HRRFCs (1122 and 1123) to supplement the
basic RFCs (791, 792, 793, etc) and you'll be on the right track. Note that
the "IP Security" that the DoD may want to buy is *not* what is described
in either Mil Std 1777 or RFC 791.
James B. VanBokkelen 26 Princess St., Wakefield, MA 01880
FTP Software Inc. voice: (617) 246-0900 fax: (617) 246-0901jonson@SERVER.AF.MIL (Lt. Matt Jonson) (03/06/91)
<J B Systems writes> > > I have received a spec which references MS 1777 (IP) and MS 1778 (TCP). > I have the rfc's to tcp and ip, but where can I find an archive for the > mil standards? Any help would be welcome. > The Mil-Stds can be gotten as publication NIC 5004 - "DDN Protocol Handbook, Vol 1" from DDN Network Information Center, SRI International, Menlo Park, CA, 94025. It was put together in 1985. They can also be requested from the Naval Publications and Forms Center (NPFC) (individually, by name) which is : Naval Publications and Forms Center Code 3015 5801 Tabor Drive Philadelphia, PA 19120 The Mil-Stds in question date back to 1983. I know that there are still military acquisitions that reference those particular specs, but to be really interoperable, vendors should be referencing RFC 1122 & RFC 1123 and using them as their criteria. Any military acquisition authority that doesn't invoke 1122 & 1123 is seriously behind the times. Some people still come up with their specs in a virtual vacuum, however... The catch-22 disclaimer of course: The opinions above are my own and do not represent official views of the U.S. Government. (maybe the opinions are catching on... :-) /matt -- Lt Matthew W Jonson jonson@server.af.mil snail-mail: Network Systems Engineer 205-279-4075 SSC/SSMT USAF DDN Program Office AV: 596-4075 Gunter AFB, AL 36114
mcc@WLV.IMSD.CONTEL.COM (Merton Campbell Crockett) (03/06/91)
Matt: > <J B Systems writes> > > I have received a spec which references MS 1777 (IP) and MS 1778 (TCP). > > I have the rfc's to tcp and ip, but where can I find an archive for the > > mil standards? Any help would be welcome. > I know that there are still military acquisitions that reference those > particular specs, but to be really interoperable, vendors should be referencing > RFC 1122 & RFC 1123 and using them as their criteria. Any military acquisition > authority that doesn't invoke 1122 & 1123 is seriously behind the times. > Some people still come up with their specs in a virtual vacuum, however... ...now what was the name of that Gunter AFB program--had something to do with LANs, PCs, etc.--it was supposed to become the Air Force standard based on MIL-STD-1777 and MIL-STD-1778 ? ;-) Some of the newer RFPs still contain references to the MIL-STDs but suggest that the vendor read them, primarily, for hysterical reasons. Merton