brennan@coco.cchs.su.oz.au (05/29/91)
Hello people! Okay, blow a fuse if I haven't posted to the right groups... We are stuck with a HP3000 mini in our Library, that we now want to get onto the net. What alternatives do we have for getting ARPA services? ANY clues, tips, laughs would be appreciated.. especially when I'm a person surrounded by Suns && Vaxes!! HP3000's.... ohmygod!! <@_@> ldcb +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ + Luke Brennan e-mail: brennan@coco.cchs.su.oz.AU + + EDP Unit, S209 lukeb@casino.cchs.su.oz.AU + + brennan%coco.cchs.su.oz.au@cunyvm.BITNET + + Cumberland College of Health Sciences, ,-_|\ + + The University of Sydney voice: +61 2 646 6402 / \ + + East Street, Lidcombe, NSW 2141 fax: +61 2 646 4853 \_,-._* + + AUSTRALIA v + +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
S.K.Quinn@massey.ac.nz (S.K. Quinn) (05/29/91)
Try WIN/TCP from Wollongong. Phone (415) 962-7100 Palo Alto California. Fax (415) 969-5547 There should be an Australian dealer. This is a HP recommended third party product. Features Telnet, ftp, smtp -- Stephen K Quinn S.K.Quinn@massey.ac.nz MIS Phone (64) (63) 505062 Massey University Fax (64) (63) 505603
jimp@cognos.UUCP (Jim Patterson) (05/29/91)
In article <1991May29.110116.1@coco.cchs.su.oz.au> brennan@coco.cchs.su.oz.au writes: > We are stuck with a HP3000 mini in our Library, that we now > want to get onto the net. > What alternatives do we have for getting ARPA services? You should specify; is that a BIG HP3000 (9xx series) or a SMALL HP3000 ("STACK" 16 bit architecture). (BIG refers to the word size, not physical size, i.e. 32 bit as opposed to 16 bit). If you have a big 3000 (i.e. something running MPE/XL), talk to HP. They should have an ARPA services product real soon now, if it isn't already out. Note: HP's ARPA services doesn't include telnet, but does have FTP. If it's a small 3000 (one running MPE/V), try contacting Wollongong. Here's a very dated U.S. address: The Wollongong Group Inc 1129 San Antonio Road Palo Alto, California 94303 -- Jim Patterson Cognos Incorporated UUNET:uunet!cognos.uucp!jimp P.O. BOX 9707 BITNET:ccs.carleton.ca!cognos.uucp!jimp 3755 Riverside Drive PHONE:(613)738-1440 x6112 Ottawa, Ont K1G 3Z4
phil@shl.com (Phil Trubey) (05/29/91)
In article <1991May29.110116.1@coco.cchs.su.oz.au> brennan@coco.cchs.su.oz.au writes: > We are stuck with a HP3000 mini in our Library, that we now > want to get onto the net. > What alternatives do we have for getting ARPA services? You have to buy two packages unfortunately. One is something called ARPA Services for MPE or something like that from HP which gives you an Ethernet board and a TCP kernal. Then you have to purchase third party software to give you the application programs (I kid you not). Wollongong sells such a thing for the HP 3000. Two observations: it isn't cheap and the last time we did this we found that HP's TCP has interoperability problems with Wollongong's TCP package for the PC. It works well with most other TCP's, though. Good luck. -- Phil Trubey | Internet: phil@shl.com SHL Systemhouse Inc. | UUCP: ...!uunet!shl!phil 50 O'Connor St., Suite 501 | Phone: 613-236-6604 x667 Ottawa, Ontario, Canada | Fax: 613-236-2043
latzko@luna-sea.rutgers.edu (Alexander Latzko) (05/30/91)
brennan@coco.cchs.su.oz.au writes: > Hello people! > We are stuck with a HP3000 mini in our Library, that we now > What alternatives do we have for getting ARPA services? > HP3000's.... ohmygod!! >+ Luke Brennan e-mail: brennan@coco.cchs.su.oz.AU + I feel sorry for you. We are stuck with one of these beasties and it has driven us practically to drink. The only solution when we started was a combination of TWG's overprices TCP suite and a cisco router to convert from 802.3 to ethernet II framing. Since then the TWG software has been mostly fixed ( now supports subnets, ethernet framing, and DNS resolver ), but is still expensive. Try info@twg.com for pricing and the like. Good luck alex latzko@hardees.rutgers.edu {backbone}!rutgers!latzko
jason@hpcndjdz.CND.HP.COM (Jason Zions) (05/30/91)
What sort of HP 3000? Which revision of MPE? HP supports ARPA services and TCP/IP on the MPE/XL OS for the 3000 Series 900 machines, and there are also solutions available (not all from HP) for the older CISC-based 3000s running MPE/V. You might try talking to your local HP sales folk. -- This is not an official statement of The Hewlett-Packard Company. No warranty is expressed or implied. The information included herein is not to be construed as a committment on HP's part. The devil made me do it. This won't save me from the lawyers' wrath, but it can't hurt. Jason Zions The Hewlett-Packard Company Colorado Networks Division 3404 E. Harmony Road Mail Stop 102 Ft. Collins, CO 80525 USA jason@cnd.hp.com (303) 229-3800
yrjola@hkkk.fi (Matti Yrjola) (05/30/91)
In <1991May29.110116.1@coco.cchs.su.oz.au> brennan@coco.cchs.su.oz.au writes: > Hello people! > Okay, blow a fuse if I haven't posted to the right groups... > We are stuck with a HP3000 mini in our Library, that we now > want to get onto the net. > What alternatives do we have for getting ARPA services? What model HP3000 do you have? The "classic" HP3000 series (with CISC architecture) do not have a HP solution for ARPA/Berkeley services, but Wollongong Group have one available. For the "New Generation" 3000s (RISC machines) you can get FTP and Telnet from HP. I think FTP is a software product, but Telnet is a hardware solution (a Telnet TCP/IP-card added to a HP DTC terminal server or as a separate Telnet Gateway). Product number for the Telnet Access card is HP2347A (we have ordered one). Another solution is to hook up a TCP/IP terminal server to the RS-ports on the 3000. > especially when I'm a person surrounded by Suns && Vaxes!! Wax? Is that something you use on your surfboard? :-) > HP3000's.... ohmygod!! Good Luck my -- ----------------------------------------------------- I did it M M Y Y Matti Yrjola, Helsinki School of Economics, Computer Center ! MM MM Y Y Runeberginkatu 14-16, 00100 HELSINKI, FINLAND ! M M M Y INTERNET: yrjola@hkkk.fi ! M M waY