sfb@NCoast.ORG (Stephen F. Bush) (06/19/91)
Hello,
I have some questions about SNMP packages:
(1) HP OpenView vs. Cabletron Spectrum - has anyone used either one and what
are your opinions about them? Any problems with either product?
I'm trying to determine which package to buy.
(1a) Is there any product, such as the above, which handles application
management?
(2) Does anyone know whether the following devices already do, or will
support SNMP?
Stratacom IPX Switches (I believe they plan to)
Telematics X.25 Nodes
Octocom Modems
PCI Pads and Protocol Converters
Codex Modems
Memotec Data Compressors
rOUTAROUNDS
AT&T WideBand Circuits
MCI WideBand Circuits
Telco Services
(3) What ever became of CMOT? Do any agents speak that protocol?
Thanks,ianhogg@cs.umn.edu (Ian J. Hogg) (06/19/91)
In article <1991Jun18.184913.8206@NCoast.ORG> sfb@NCoast.ORG (Stephen F. Bush) writes: >(1) HP OpenView vs. Cabletron Spectrum - has anyone used either one and what > are your opinions about them? Any problems with either product? > I'm trying to determine which package to buy. I used OpenView extensively for 9 months last year (until I left my former company). I developed an management system for data acquisition systems that was demoed at last summers IEEE Summer Power Meeting. I felt it is an excellant product and pretty solid, even though I started with pre-release versions. I know they have a least 1 newer version that may make it easier to develop managers and applications. It is very powerful but big. An analogy I use is that is comparable to Xlib what we need is an Xt layer with widgets on top of the current system. I was working on this by encapsulating OpenView inside of C++ classes. My two main classes were ObjectManager and ManagedObject. I was pretty close to getting it working before I left my old company. HP was considering building a code generator for the managed objects. I hope that they still provide a simpler programatic interface for those of us who would rather roll our own. > >(1a) Is there any product, such as the above, which handles application > management? I don't know about products but that was the problem I was working on. I was designing a system to manage our applications and servers. Most of our servers are NCS based so I defined an interface that all servers must support. Then the server manager takes the OpenView requests and turns around and makes an NCS request to the appropriate server. The server manager handle requests for starting servers, killing them, etc. I felt this approach was reasonable to avoid having to put OpenView support in our servers or NCS support in our management applications. > >(2) Does anyone know whether the following devices already do, or will > support SNMP? I have no idea about this. >(3) What ever became of CMOT? Do any agents speak that protocol? OpenView uses CMOT and SNMP through the same interface. In some configuration file you define attributes for the managed objects, one of the attributes is whether it supports SNMP or CMOT. Hp's snmpd will connect to the OpenView server if one is running. I think supporting both protocols is a real benefit, I believe that it will allow smoother integration of managed objects whos agents speak SNMP, CMOT, or CMIP (when it comes). Although this should have been at the top of my message, I haven't used OpenView since the end of january so I may have forgotten some things or unaware of recent upgrades. I do feel that is an excellant product and should be seriously considered. > > > Thanks, -- =============================================================================== Ian Hogg ianhogg@cs.umn.edu (612) 225-1401
echan@CAD017.INTEL.COM (Eldon Chan ~) (06/20/91)
We have a group actually evaluating both Spectrum and HP OpenView.
I'll be very interested in how you come down to these two vendors.
Other vendors we have tested are SunNet manager and DECmcc MSU.
You may check the Datapro documents for a list of NMS and SNMP agents.
Hope it helps.
Eldon
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Hello,
I have some questions about SNMP packages:
(1) HP OpenView vs. Cabletron Spectrum - has anyone used either one and what
are your opinions about them? Any problems with either product?
I'm trying to determine which package to buy.
(1a) Is there any product, such as the above, which handles application
management?
(2) Does anyone know whether the following devices already do, or will
support SNMP?
Stratacom IPX Switches (I believe they plan to)
Telematics X.25 Nodes
Octocom Modems
PCI Pads and Protocol Converters
Codex Modems
Memotec Data Compressors
rOUTAROUNDS
AT&T WideBand Circuits
MCI WideBand Circuits
Telco Services
(3) What ever became of CMOT? Do any agents speak that protocol?
Thanks,chrisv@cmc.com (Chris VandenBerg) (06/21/91)
To add my two cents worth (since I have used the product extensively since about March of this year): >In article <1991Jun18.184913.8206@NCoast.ORG> sfb@NCoast.ORG (Stephen F. Bush) writes: >>(1) HP OpenView vs. Cabletron Spectrum - has anyone used either one and what >> are your opinions about them? Any problems with either product? >> I'm trying to determine which package to buy. >> >>(1a) Is there any product, such as the above, which handles application >> management? This is all dependant upon the information available in the agent MIB. Some vendors, such as H/P, have put information such as % swap, CPU utilization, amount of space left on each file system, etc. into their MIBs that ship with their O/S. Since OPENVIEW lets you load in any mib, and the application builder lets you decide how to collect and display that information, the product is very capable of performing application management. I've heard a rumor that SUN will be following with their version of system management variables in the SVr4 version of SUNOS coming soon to a theater near you (:*). > >(2) Does anyone know whether the following devices already do, or will > support SNMP? I never saw your original post. One of the main reasons that I needed to use OPENVIEW was to manage our FDDI agent on FDDI which employs the IETF working group FDDI MIB. Since it was(and is) in the experimental branch, using the application builder allowed me to create applications that used these parameters and "tailor" the product to manage FDDI. It was flexible and easy. I'd recommend it. Chris VandenBerg CMC - A Rockwell Intl Co. 125 Cremona Dr. Goleta, CA. 93117 Internet - chrisv@cmc.com ma-bell - 805-562-3127