[comp.protocols.tcp-ip] Network backups

wagner@cs.umn.edu (Paul J. Wagner) (07/03/90)

I recently posted a request for information about the possibility of
backing up an Ultrix system to a VAX/VMS system over TCP/IP.  I
received responses regarding two current products, and a third
response containing a past summary of information about network backups
generally, from which I distilled the third item included here.
Edited summaries of the information I received follows. - Paul


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1) From: nowicki@Legato.COM (Bill Nowicki)
           
You recently posted a note about network backups.  Our company recently
released a product that does that.  The first release is for SunOS, but
Ultrix is currently being tested, and VMS can be done on request.
Please contact us for more information, at 415-329-7880.

Thanks, Bill Nowicki
	Legato Systems
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	Legato NetWorker: The Complete Backup and Recover Product

 Legato NetWorker is a unique, easy-to-operate product that protects
files against loss, network-wide.  At the same time, it speeds file
recovery so users never waste time re-creating valuable work.
 Legato NetWorker easily adapts to your environment.  It uses
industry-standard network protocols and no changes are made to the
operating system of any platform.  And as your network and volume of
files expands, NetWorker has the capacity and performance to handle
the load.
...
Available now: Call your local Unix software distributor or Legato at 
(415) 329-7880.



2) From: VANCE@TGV.COM (L. Stuart Vance)

Our MultiNet TCP/IP for VMS package supports an RMT (Remote MagTape) server,
allowing you to use the UNIX rdump and rrestore utilites to backup/restore
files from your ULTRIX box to your VMS system.  Please drop me a note if you
would like any additional information/details.

... the server allows UNIX systems that support the rdump and rrestore
utilities and PCs that have FTP Software's package (which has a port
of rtar) to access the VMS tape drive over the network.  Additionally
the RMT server allows you to rdump/rrestore to a VMS file (which you
can then copy to tape) if the rdump/rrestore directly to tape takes
longer than you'd like.


3) From: Alan Strassberg <plains!oetl1.SCF.LOCKHEED.COM!alan>
>From: tony@rata.vuw.ac.nz (Tony Martindale) - past summary re: network backups
 From:  Hans W. Barz, R.1032.3.34, CIBA-GEIGY, 4002 Basel, Switzerland
	 mail: whwb@cgch.uucp

 ... if you connect the systems
 with NFS you can write the backup with standard system backups to the
 central site. Retrieving a certain file for restore is awkward using
 NFS since the most backup routines scan through the whole backup (assuming
 it is a tape) to find the file. This delivers a high network load with a 
 low outcome.

 There is one similar solution around on top of Hyperchannel (at least for 
 VAX'es and IBM's) named HYPERTAPE (contact: MultiStream Systems 
 Incorporated, Denise Yegge, P.O.Box 497, Excelsior, Minnesota 55331, USA). 
 They had the plan to run it also on top of TCP/IP. This information is from 
 Feb. 1988, you may check if it is still true.

 *** note - I can find no entry for MultiStream Systems in the 1989-1990
Minneapolis, MN phone book - anyone know if this company still exists?
 - PJW ***


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qoffice@nixeid.UUCP (Qofiice Software) (06/25/91)

Posting the following for a colleague.......




To:	Anyone out there


	I am currently looking for a TCP/IP based software package that
	performs unattended, command line or batch mode file transfer.
	It is to be UNIX based (SCO pref.), but can be used with MS-DOS
	FTP. PC TCP/IP. Of course, thats the ideal, but I'd be willing to
	know of anything that even remotely comes near this. The option of
	stitching together an ftp based solution is too awful to 
	contemplate, so any answers would be greatly appreciated. Something
	akin to Legato Networker (no plugs please) would be nice.

	If no such product exists, then why not, and will it ever, and if
	it does, then I'll take it.

	Thanks in advance,

					Gary Smyth,
					Siemens Nixdorf Ireland 

dale@interlan.Interlan.COM (Dale B) (06/26/91)

In article <83@nixeid.UUCP> qoffice@nixeid.UUCP (Qofiice Software) writes:
>Posting the following for a colleague.......
>
>
>
>
>To:	Anyone out there
>
>
>	I am currently looking for a TCP/IP based software package that
>	performs unattended, command line or batch mode file transfer.
>	It is to be UNIX based (SCO pref.), but can be used with MS-DOS
>	FTP. PC TCP/IP. Of course, thats the ideal, but I'd be willing to
>	know of anything that even remotely comes near this. The option of
>	stitching together an ftp based solution is too awful to 
>	contemplate, so any answers would be greatly appreciated. Something
>	akin to Legato Networker (no plugs please) would be nice.
>
>	If no such product exists, then why not, and will it ever, and if
>	it does, then I'll take it.
>
>	Thanks in advance,
>
>					Gary Smyth,
>					Siemens Nixdorf Ireland 

Sorry for having to post a reply, but I have yet to figure out how to email to
UUCP domains, tried everything I could think of and the message just kept 
bouncing back, I don't even think it left the machine.

Anyway...
For software that's 'in the works' check with Workstation Solutions in Nashua,
New Hampshire (USA).  Sorry, I don't have their address but their phone number
is (603)880-0080.  A fellow by the name of Jim Ward heads the company.  Also,
could you drop me an email giving a quick sumary of what you find, after you
think you have everything in?  I'm interested in what's out there also.

Dale - dale@interlan.interlan.com