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tr@wind.bellcore.com (tom reingold) (12/08/87)

What color should my interior of my car be to make my car go faster?

Enquiring minds want to know.

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cs161ahs@sdcc18.UUCP (12/09/87)

In article <4134@bellcore.bellcore.com>, tr@wind.bellcore.com (tom reingold) writes:
> What color should my interior of my car be to make my car go faster?
> 
> Enquiring minds want to know.

I heard somewhere that white was the color most ticketed (by cops).
I heard that it was because people used to paint their sports cars red and
drive like mainiacs and get tickets.  Then someone told them the
statistic that red cars get lots of tickets so they painted them white.

("them" being people who drive fast sports cars)

ugjeffh@sunybcs.uucp (Jeffrey Horvath) (12/09/87)

In article <4134@bellcore.bellcore.com> tr@wind.UUCP (tom reingold) writes:
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>What color should my interior of my car be to make my car go faster?
>
>Enquiring minds want to know.
>
>Tom Reingold           

  Why, I should imagine that you would want the interior parts that face
foreward to be white, and the backwards facing parts to be black.

  Reasoning:

The black would absorb the energy of the light, thus transferring your energy
to the car in the forward direction.  The white would reflect the light, thus
reflecting potentially harmful backwards thrust. :-)

  Of course, you should always drag race with your back to the sun.  Helps
visibility too.

  Brian 

couple more of these :-) :-)

DOW@MAINE.BITNET (Michael R. Dow) (12/09/87)

In article <4134@bellcore.bellcore.com>, tr@wind.bellcore.com (tom reingold) says:
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>What color should my interior of my car be to make my car go faster?
>
>Enquiring minds want to know.
>
>Tom Reingold                    INTERNET:       tr@bellcore.bellcore.com
     
I suggest a nice bright yellow and green plaid with bits of chartruse and
crimson.
     
M
     

welty@sunup.steinmetz (richard welty) (12/10/87)

In article <4134@bellcore.bellcore.com> tr@wind.UUCP (tom reingold) writes:

>What color should my interior of my car be to make my car go faster?

During the summer, I think black would be best.  The heat absorbed from
the sunlight should speed you up nicely :-)

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ulrich@grasp.cis.upenn.edu (Nathan Ulrich) (12/10/87)

In article <7106@sunybcs.UUCP> ugjeffh@joey.UUCP (Jeffrey Horvath) writes:
>In article <4134@bellcore.bellcore.com> tr@wind.UUCP (tom reingold) writes:
>>
>>What color should my interior of my car be to make my car go faster?
>
>  Why, I should imagine that you would want the interior parts that face
>foreward to be white, and the backwards facing parts to be black.
>
>  Reasoning:
>
>The black would absorb the energy of the light, thus transferring your energy
>to the car in the forward direction.  The white would reflect the light, thus
>reflecting potentially harmful backwards thrust. :-)

No, no, no.  According to what I remember of my statistical thermo, you want
the *rear* of the car to be white.  That way you take advantage of the transfer
of momentum from the photons striking the car.  If the surface is white, then
the momentum transferred to the car per photon will be 2mccosT, where m is the
mass of the photon, c is its velocity, and T is the angle of incidence.  If
the surface is black, then most photons will be absorbed, transferring only
mccosT momentum per photon.  Therefore, if the front is black, the back is
white, the sides are any color, and we neglect the top, and there is equal 
amount of radiation from all sides, then we have a net transfer of 
		mccosT times the photon density then integrated from 0 to pi.

This must be of huge significance--think of the huge number of photons striking
your car every second....

Of course, to *really* move, you should put the back (white) side of your car
to the sun. :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) 

(by the way, I think this is how the outer space "sun-sailers" work, by using
the photon pressure to move spacecraft....it really is a measurable phenomenon)


Nathan Ulrich
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daegin@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Rick Miller) (12/10/87)

ulrich@grasp.cis.upenn.edu (Nathan Ulrich) wrote:
>(by the way, I think this is how the outer space "sun-sailers" work, by using
>the photon pressure to move spacecraft....it really is a measurable phenomenon

Well, yeah...

	But isn't GETTING STARTED a real bugger?  I mean, I've shined a REAL
BRIGHT flashlight at a mirror, and I didn't feel any push at all!!!

	I guess the sunlight's just a little more agressive in space...

cwc@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Christopher W. Clifton) (12/10/87)

In article <4134@bellcore.bellcore.com> tr@wind.UUCP (tom reingold) writes:
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>What color should my interior of my car be to make my car go faster?
>
In the summer, try white.  This way you can run the air conditioner less,
putting more power to the road...

Another idea, especially if you want acceleration, is to eliminate the
interior altogether.  Go for a SuperBike!

-Chris

kyl@homxb.UUCP (Cindy Parker) (12/10/87)

In article <4134@bellcore.bellcore.com>, tr@wind.bellcore.com (tom reingold) writes:
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> What color should my interior of my car be to make my car go faster?
> 
> Tom Reingold                    INTERNET:       tr@bellcore.bellcore.com

       It is not the interior color that makes the car go faster,
       it is the exterior color that is important.


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marcos@caus-dp.UUCP (Marcos R. Della) (12/11/87)

 In article <2770@super.upenn.edu>, ulrich@grasp (Nathan Ulrich) writes:
 >In article <7106@sunybcs.UUCP> ugjeffh@joey.UUCP (Jeffrey Horvath) writes:
 >>In article <4134@bellcore.bellcore.com> tr@wind.UUCP (tom reingold) writes:
 >>>
 >>>What color should my interior of my car be to make my car go faster?
 >>
 >>  Why, I should imagine that you would want the interior parts that face
 >>foreward to be white, and the backwards facing parts to be black.
 >>
 >>  Reasoning:
 >>
 >>The black would absorb the energy of the light, thus transferring your energy
 >>to the car in the forward direction.  The white would reflect the light, thus
 >>reflecting potentially harmful backwards thrust. :-)
 >
 >No, no, no.  According to what I remember of my statistical thermo, you want
 >the *rear* of the car to be white.  That way you take advantage of the
 >transfer of momentum from the photons striking the car.
 >... 

Actually I think that if you really want to move faster, paint the car black,
add white doors and put a red light just outside the drivers window. Then
add a rise-fall noise maker and a BIG engine and you can go as fast as you
want... Just don't get caught! ;-)

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madd@bu-cs.BU.EDU (Jim Frost) (12/11/87)

In article <7106@sunybcs.UUCP> ugjeffh@joey.UUCP (Jeffrey Horvath) writes:
>In article <4134@bellcore.bellcore.com> tr@wind.UUCP (tom reingold) writes:
>>
>>What color should my interior of my car be to make my car go faster?
>>
>>Enquiring minds want to know.
>>
>>Tom Reingold           
>
>  Why, I should imagine that you would want the interior parts that face
>foreward to be white, and the backwards facing parts to be black.
>
>  Reasoning:
>
>The black would absorb the energy of the light, thus transferring your energy
>to the car in the forward direction.  The white would reflect the light, thus
>reflecting potentially harmful backwards thrust. :-)
>
>  Of course, you should always drag race with your back to the sun.  Helps
>visibility too.

Oh, I don't know about that.  Consider the reasoning behind "solar
sails".  The sail is extremely reflective so that light coming after
that bounces off and some energy is transfered to the ship.  What
you'd want would be a silvered back and do whatever you want with the
front.  In order for any of the colors to make any difference, you
need a directional light source -- it MUST be behind you or you won't
gain anything.

tiny jim
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