[comp.windows.news] Scroll Bar's for windows in NeWS

aronson@sunbird.steinmetz (marc aronson) (05/12/87)

1.  Has anybody implemented scroll bars as a sun NeWS utility?
I have talked to the SUN NeWS people, and they do not have scroll bars
available at this time.

2.  Has anyone integrated an editor with NeWS windows that will operate
something like "cmdtool".  It's not important that the user interface
be the same.  I just need a window that I can put up and the user can
do some simple editing in.

3.  Has anybody built a tool for creating NeWS display windows.  I'm looking
for something that allows me to compose a display window with
button/slider/text/cycle items, and then automatically generate some
of the code.


				Thanks,

					Marc

aronson@sunbird.steinmetz (marc aronson) (05/14/87)

In article <5971@steinmetz.steinmetz.UUCP> aronson@sunbird.UUCP () writes:

Note:  Oops, I forget my return path when I posted this the first time.  My
return address is:  aronson@ge-crd.arpa -- steinmetz!sungod!aronson.
Tried to cancel it, but it may have gotten out anyway...Here it is again, in
any case.
 >
 >1.  Has anybody implemented scroll bars as a sun NeWS utility?
 >I have talked to the SUN NeWS people, and they do not have scroll bars
 >available at this time.
 >
 >2.  Has anyone integrated an editor with NeWS windows that will operate
 >something like "cmdtool".  It's not important that the user interface
 >be the same.  I just need a window that I can put up and the user can
 >do some simple editing in.
 >
 >3.  Has anybody built a tool for creating NeWS display windows.  I'm looking
 >for something that allows me to compose a display window with
 >button/slider/text/cycle items, and then automatically generate some
 >of the code.

Send mail to me, and I'll summarize responses.
Marc Aronson

aronson@ge-crd.arpa -- steinmetz!sungod!aronson

gilbert@aimmi.UUCP (05/23/87)

In article <5984@steinmetz.steinmetz.UUCP> aronson@sunbird.UUCP (marc aronson) writes:
> >1.  Has anybody implemented scroll bars as a sun NeWS utility?

Has anybody shown that they are sensible form of panning technique?
I'm glad Sun haven't gone for them straight off, as it may encourage
toolkit implementors to look at alternative forms of panning before
settling myopically for scroll bars.

Common alternatives are dragging a point in the picture to the
clipping window edge (as in MacPaint - love it) or moving the cursor
just over the edge of the clipping window (works on some Mac
Applications). There is a comprehensive survey of interaction
techniques in:

%A J.D. Foley
%A V.L. Wallace
%A P. Chan
%T The human factors of computer graphics interaction techniques
%J IEEE Computer Graphics and Applications
%V 4(11)
%P 13-48
%D 1984

Smart CAD/CAM implementors may also have done something that the GWU
crowd don't know about, so you could extend your repetoire by having a play
at the next CAD/CAM exhibition near you.

Oh - and be sure to see a psychologist before you hard-code anything :-)
If you don't get on, at least get some ideas from:

%A W. Buxton
%T There's More to Interaction Than Meets the Eye: Some Issues in Manual Input
%B User Centred System Design
%E D.A. Norman
%E S. Draper
%I Laurence Erlbaum
%P 319-337
%D 1986

Bill Buxton has some nice ideas about gesture input which are more digestible
than raw Human Factors papers (unless you're a Human Factors
specialist, in which case they digest easily but make you wish you'd
eaten somewhere a bit more adventurous and cosmopolitan :-))

-- 
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