[comp.windows.news] double-sided PS printers?

don@brillig (Don Hopkins) (10/04/87)

A double sided laser printer sure would be nice. But what I really
want is one with a "clippaper" command, that can make arbitrarily
shaped snippets of paper. Now /that/ would be handy. (Think of how
nice it would be for printing NeWS windows!) c(-;

	-Don

ron@topaz.rutgers.edu (Ron Natalie) (10/05/87)

Gee Don, all you have to do is turn up the power of the laser
and stroke the path.  We've got a Telaris printer that regularly
burns paper into little bits (actually, I think it's the fuser
that does it).

-Ron

hedrick@topaz.rutgers.edu (Charles Hedrick) (10/05/87)

Diconix, a subsidiary of Kodak, makes an ink-jet printer at 300 dpi
that handles Postscript and prints on both sides of the paper.  Our
main qualm is that this is a printer in the 20ppm price range, but as
far as we can tell they haven't done the work necessary to make it
interpret Postscript much faster than the Laserwriter.  (Well, maybe a
little faster: more memory and a more recent version of the Adobe
code, but we're looking for something with a fast 68020 or
equivalent.)  As I'm sure everyone on this newsgroup knows, the first
vendor to offer a genuine 20ppm or higher Postscript printer will make
a mint.  (Printers that have to be fed using DECnet don't count.)

elwell@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Clayton Elwell) (10/05/87)

ron@topaz.rutgers.edu (Ron Natalie) writes:
    Gee Don, all you have to do is turn up the power of the laser
    and stroke the path.  We've got a Telaris printer that regularly
    burns paper into little bits (actually, I think it's the fuser
    that does it).
    
    -Ron

It's the fuser.  Talaris (and QMS) used the Xerox XP-12 marking engine
for their 12 ppm printers.  The XP-12 has one of the more tortuous
paper paths ever invented.  We have a Xerox 2700 that burns paper
fairly often.  In the last incident, the printing sequence ended up as
follows:

	Step 1. Feed two sheets simultaneously, one from each paper
		cassette, and get them stuck halfway fed.

	Step 2. Pour some toner down into the top paper cassette.

	Step 3. Burn the aforementioned pieces of paper in half, so
		that one half falls back out.

	Step 4. Now that things are royally screwed up, signal a paper
		jam.

Fun for everyone.  One thing I like about our new printer is that it
has a *straight* paper path.

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bill@dayton.UUCP (William T. Argyros) (10/06/87)

In article <15325@topaz.rutgers.edu> hedrick@topaz.rutgers.edu (Charles Hedrick) writes:
> but as
>far as we can tell they haven't done the work necessary to make it
>interpret Postscript much faster than the Laserwriter.  (Well, maybe a
>little faster: more memory and a more recent version of the Adobe
>code, but we're looking for something with a fast 68020 or
>equivalent.)

We have had Diconix Dijit 1 printers (non postscript, Xerox 2700 emulation)
for over a year and a half now.  We just purchased 38 of the Dijit 1/PS
(PostScript) printers.

I talked to my contact at Diconix today and he said: "How would like
your Dijit 1/PS's to run 2 maybe 3 times faster?"  He then eluded to a
new 68020 version of the PostScript engine for the printer due out
sometime late this year.

We are waiting with baited breath....

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